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How Bush and Obama's Wars Create Terrorism on America Soil

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  1. glynch

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    I know the the neo-cons and their fellow travellers say Muslims/Arabs hate us because we are good and have freedom etc., but let's face reality, folks fight back in different, even counterproductive ways when you kill them or relatives or folks of their ethnicity needlessly. A cardinal example is finding rural men mostly in small town USA lining up to join and go fight in Afghanistan and sadly Iraq because of 9/11. Similarly Muslims/Arabs etc. fight back when we go around killing folks from the Middle East.
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    Wednesday, Oct 6, 2010 06:07 ET
    Times Square bomber: Cause and effect in the War on Terror
    By Glenn Greenwald
    AP
    This June 29, 2010 photo taken from video and provided by the FBI shows an FBI-staged explosion in Osceola Mills, Pa., that prosecutors say replicates the power of the car bomb Faisal Shahzad tried to detonate in Times Square on May 1.Faisal Shahzad was sentenced by a federal judge to life in prison yesterday for his attempted bombing of Times Square, a crime for which he previously pleaded guilty. Aside from proving yet again how uniquely effective our real judicial system is (as opposed to military commissions or lawless detention) in convicting and punishing Terrorists (see this NYT Editorial on that issue this morning), this episode sheds substantial light on what I wrote about on Monday: namely, how our actions in the Muslim world -- ostensibly undertaken to combat Terrorism -- do more than anything else to spur Terrorism and ensure its permanent continuation.

    Ever since Shahzad was apprehended, the media storyline has been one of faux bafflement: why would a naturalized Pakistani-American citizen with an M.B.A. and such a nice, middle-class life in the U.S. possibly turn into such a vicious Terrorist Monster?
    But from the start, the evidence answering that question has been both clear and overwhelming. The New York Times examined a decade's worth of emails and other private communications as Shahzad became radicalized against the U.S., in which he railed with increasing fury against the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, drone attacks in Pakistan, Israeli violence against Palestinians and Muslims generally, Guantanamo and torture, and asked: "Can you tell me a way to save the oppressed? And a way to fight back when rockets are fired at us and Muslim blood flows?" When he pleaded guilty in June, this is what he told the baffled and angry Judge about why he did what he did:


    If the United States does not get out of Iraq, Afghanistan and other countries controlled by Muslims, he said, "we will be attacking U.S.," adding that Americans "only care about their people, but they don't care about the people elsewhere in the world when they die" . . . .

    As soon as he was taken into custody May 3 at John F. Kennedy International Airport, onboard a flight to Dubai, the Pakistani-born Shahzad told agents that he was motivated by opposition to U.S. policy in the Muslim world, officials said.

    "One of the first things he said was, 'How would you feel if people attacked the United States? You are attacking a sovereign Pakistan'," said one law enforcement official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the interrogation reports are not public....


    Note: the rest of the article is worth reading, too.
    http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/10/06/terrorism/index.html
     
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