Mo T for Kerry Kittles Nets want a power forward that can score. They are dangling Kerry Kittles. We could sweeten the deal with Pike, or even the TE for trash and future picks. Last year : GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% OFF DEF RPG APG SPG 82 34.7 .453 .351 .787 .70 3.30 4.00 2.5 1.52 BPG TO PF PPG .49 1.16 1.80 13.1 Kittles is a pretty good shooter, and in the last year of his contract. We could team him in the backcourt with Tmac at the 3, and JJ off the bench. Why Rox - get out of Mo T contract. Replace Mo T with Braggs or whatever. Rox get a shooter for the backcourt, who also makes some steals. Why Nets - They get a power forward that can run and gun with a replaceable two guard. News : Nets turn their eyes toward Wilcox http://www.nypost.com/sports/nets/25600.htm --------------------------------------------------- Trade checker : Houston trades: PF Maurice Taylor (11.5 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 1.4 apg in 27.8 minutes) Houston receives: SG Kerry Kittles (13.1 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 2.5 apg in 34.7 minutes) Change in team outlook: +1.6 ppg, -1.1 rpg, and +1.1 apg. New Jersey trades: SG Kerry Kittles (13.1 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 2.5 apg in 34.7 minutes) New Jersey receives: PF Maurice Taylor (11.5 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 1.4 apg in 75 games) Change in team outlook: -1.6 ppg, +1.1 rpg, and -1.1 apg. TRADE ACCEPTED Mo T makes 9 mil and Kittles makes 10 so we could also include Pike or AG as necessary - which gives NJ another 2 guard - and still be in the 15%. ---------------------------------------- This is a small deal but I think it helps us. We can still chase a point guard and backup center with the TE and MCE. .
I don't understand .....................why on earth would you want to move the best player in the league at his position (debatable) to a whole new position, just to make room for a run of the mill player like Kittles??? JJ and TMac > TMac and Kittles IMO
I LOVE Kittles defensively. He's the most underrated defender in the league. He just smothered Marbury in the first round of the playoffs this past season. And he completely shut down Billups in the second round. I think he's got the ball handling ability to play some minutes at the point. On offense, he would also be a great fit. He hardly turns the ball over, is a career 38% 3-point shooter, and is great fast break player. But I don't see any reason why New Jersey would want Taylor's contract. They'll either trade him for Abdur-Rahim, or they'll just keep him and let his contract expire. Maybe if the Rockets traded their trade exception for ZO Mourning and his contract, they MAY consider it.
EXACTLY. Especially on a team where our two needs are point guard and big man. Kittles helps neither position. Dealing for Kittles makes zero sense for us.
Kittles' contract expires at the end of the year for about 9 million. They nets do not want to take on Taylor's contract in return. If anything, they'll let Kittles walk if they can't get what they want in return, then use some of that money on free agents when they're under the cap next year.
As GATER has noted in other posts - the defense will put their best player on Tmac no matter what position he is nominally designated. It doesn't really matter whether we call him a shooting guard or a small forward. Tmac will attack and the other wing player will spot up - whether it's JJ or Kittles. Also, as NewJack notes, Kittles is a highly adequate defender - Cuttinoesque. Third, I really think JJ is best suited off the bench. However, if Kittles is off the bench, fine with me, too. At least we have removed Mo T's deal by year end. If you really don't like Kittles, trade his expiring deal for someone else at the trade deadline - maybe you can get a point or backup center or another backup forward you like better. You won't find a better way to move Mr. Taylor. Myself, I'd be happy to keep Kittles and re-sign him to a more reasonable 5.5 mil contract for 3 years at year end - basically, replace Cuttino, without the crappy shot selection. This is a small deal that works to the Rocket's long-term good.
I wouldn't do this trade for other reasons, particularly we need MoTaylor. I don't see any other powerforwards out there, but if he were truly expendable, this would be a pretty good trade. T-Mac would just move to the three, which is not a stretch at all considering all the things he does. You get a good shooter and defender, and imo, a more natural two than JJ, and JJ would be a nice player of the bench as already mentioned. The problem with this trade is that you are counting on MoTaylor as your only big man off the bench currently. Not getting Kittles.
Jackson and Kittles stats are a wash. Jackson is a lil taller, and a better defender. Oh. And he makes about $7 MIL per year less than Kittles. Id rather let Boki and Pike handle the backup swing minutes. Kittles is addressing a position where we don't need help. If Mo can be traded for something, it needs to be another big or a PG.
We are better off after this deal, in terms of overall talent and flexibility. You and codell have the fixation with the status quo. Learn to breathe and enjoy the freedom of change. Life is a river, not a rock. I will submit that it will be easier to exchange Kittles for a point or big man later, if that is required, than it would be to trade Taylor. We can still sign Damon Jones or Mike James, as has been discussed here, at length. For the poster that noted the Rockets need some size on their bench, I will submit that we can fill that need better through trade or free agency with minimum players. Mr. Taylor was not much of a rebounder or particularly useful as a role player in conjunction with our stars. We can get an energy guy to backup Howard easy enough, and there's still Spoon at the end of the bench. I could go on with seven hundred subsequent moves that will finish every position and dot every i, but you will just shoot them all down. Come up with some yourself. Be creative. This is a move to increase flexibility.
We don't need Kittles since we have J.J. who was outstanding last year. Him and T-Mac will be great wing men for our team. MoT is a proven 6th man. This trade does nothing to convince me that it improves our team.
Mo may have a bad contract, but in the wild wild west a big man is invaluable. We could really use some instant offense to help spread the D against Yao. Without Mo on the bench whenever Howard goes out, they are going to double and maybe triple Yao, at least with Mo they would have to pay for leaving him open.
It is more about that expiring contract and how atractive it will be near the trade deadline. If we don't swing a trade, it comes of the books at the end of the year. After that, the last bad contracts on the Rockets are Spoon and Maloney I think - way better off then I could ever have imagined after the Moochie signing.
I guess I’m the only person here that liked what I saw from Weatherspoon last season. In 17 minutes, he made all his open jumpers (shooting over 50% from the field), and he picked up a lot of rebounds (4.2 a game, only one less rebound than Taylor gets in 28 minutes). If Howard is going to play the minutes he usually does, which is around +36 minutes. That leaves 12 minutes for the backup power forward. I think Weatherspoon can handle 12 minutes.
OK, since you people can't seem to follow through yourselves, I will show a few more moves we can make. There are teams that will want Kittles expiring contract, that do not have a power forward to give to New Jersey. They might, however, have someone we need. There are a number of teams that have bad contracts they want to get rid of. Sometimes, the price they pay to get rid of those contracts is they give up a decent player also. eg : Seattle might give us Daniels if we take on Booth. In Seattle, there's also recent talk that Vladimir Radmanovic's agent isn't happy with re-signing as a backup. They might let him go, and that would fill out the package. I'm sure you can come up with other scenario's where they benefit from getting rid of someone and take on Kittles expiring deal. That's even more true if they trade Ray Allen for SAR., or another star. eg # 2 - Chicago might give us Chandler if we take on Jerome Williams. Theres's your size - you size queens. There are a lot of combinations with Chicago, of course. Duhon, Antonio Davis, there's more than one way to cut it. eg # 3 - Indiana wants to exit Pollard. He can play for us. They might give up a decent prospect like Bender. They need an extra 2. You can come up with more scenarios. Another thing we can do is hire guys like Torraye Braggs and Tmo. We have trouble making room for them now, but they can fill a role. We can also pick up some vet guys like Z. Rebraca, who'd work fine behind Yao. Detroit won't match both him and Mike James, after signing Wallace. There are just a few.
