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Hottoddie's off season plan....... for what it's worth.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Hottoddie, May 25, 2009.

  1. Hottoddie

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    It's my opinion that Artest will not resign with us. He'll probably end up with the Lakers, Cavaliers, or Spurs. I just hope we can do a sign & trade for a prospect or draft pick.

    I believe we can all agree that we need an athletic backup center & a SG/SF that can shoot consistently from anywhere on the court. I don't know what the right solution will be, but I'm sure Morey will get us what we need.

    Having said that, I have an idea (imagine that:D). Using this article as the basis of my proposal, I've put together 3 trades that I feel could benefit all 3 clubs involved. The link to this article was provided by RealGM.

    http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=296041

    Trade #1 - Not likely, because we wouldn't want to get stuck with Randolph.

    Houston sends McGrady/Cook/Barry to the Clippers.

    The Clippers send Camby/Randolph/conditional 1st round pick to Houston.


    Trade #2 - I'm not so sure Detroit would part with both Prince & Afflalo.

    Houston sends McGrady/Cook to the Clippers.
    Houston sends Landry to Detroit.

    The Clippers send Camby to Houston.
    The Clippers send Randolph/two 2nd round picks to Detroit.

    Detroit sends Prince/Kwame/Afflalo to Houston.


    Trade #3 - This is the one I feel would have the best chance of happening.

    Houston sends McGrady/Cook to the Clippers.
    Houston sends Battier to Detroit.

    The Clippers send Camby/conditional #1 pick to Houston.
    The Clippers send Randolph to Detroit.

    Detroit sends Prince/Kwame/Amir to Houston.



    The Clippers acquire McGrady/Cook while giving up Camby/Randolph.

    The key for the Clippers is moving Randolph to make room for Griffin & getting something in exchange for Camby's expiring contract. If McGrady is fully healed, they just acquired a quality SG/SF to pair with their young team. If he's not healed, then they acquire an extra $13+ million in cap relief after next season.

    Detroit acquires Randolph/Battier while giving up Prince/Kwame/Amir.

    The key for Detroit is replacing the soon to depart McDyess & Rasheed. This trade allows them to add a 20+ppg/10+rpg PF/C to their roster & one of the premier defensive SF's in the league. The Battier for Prince trade was necessary to make the deal work. Detroit has had good success dealing with Rasheed's antics & should be able to deal with one more knucklehead in Randolph. Amir & Kwame are 2 players that were buried on the bench for them.

    Houston acquires Camby/Prince/Amir/Kwame/conditional #1 pick while giving up McGrady/Battier/Cook.

    The key to Houston doing this is to add a backup center for Yao that brings athleticism, defense, shot blocking, & better scoring than we had in Mutombo. It's my opinion that even if McGrady comes back fully healed, he's not a good fit for the Rockets anymore. When he's on the floor, the flow of the offense slows down. Also, Camby's contract expires at the end of next year & still leaves us with some cap flexibility if we don't want to resign him or he retires.

    While we give up some perimeter defense in Battier, we get more scoring from Prince. Overall, our defensive presence shifts more to the front court than the perimeter.

    Kwame & Amir gives us a couple more bigs to draw some cheap fouls.

    We should be able to get a SG in free agency with part of our MLE. Some guys I'd take a look at are:

    Rodney Carney (UFA)
    Kareem Rush (UFA) - If he's healthy.
    Rashad McCants (RFA)
    Morris Almond (UFA)

    Of course, there's always the possibility of a trade for one being done. Is this even close to a workable plan?
     
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  2. nolimitnp

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    This couldn't go in one of the random trade idea threads? You think yours stands out above the others enough to name a thread after yourself? Gimme a break. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
     
  3. Hottoddie

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    I haven't posted in quite a while so I didn't notice it. However, it's nice to see that some things haven't changed around here. :rolleyes:
     
  4. iRonRon

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    Why blow up the team when for once in a long time we had a successful year, I mean chemistry is one of the biggest parts of this team
     
  5. Tom Bombadillo

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    Ron will sign....Making these trades.........dead.
     
  6. matac3

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    Look im sorry but I may be the only one here who still believe if your going to trade McGrady then you better get something back. I still think the guy has it in him. Atleast trade him for something good , not trash
     
  7. Francis3422

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    hottodie has posted around here as long as I can remember. There seems to be a lot of posters from 2007 who are quick to shank people on starting threads.

    Its written is good english, feasible and justified which is more than I can say for much of the stuff posted.


    Hottodie is a poster who is always quick to throw out trade scenarios and I find them good fodder.
     
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    I like it better than the Chris Paul scenario.

    The biggest problem: Randolph is a dead weight. I don't think Detroit would want him. He is not in the same league of Sheed. He is not just a knucklehead, he is a selfish player on court, something Sheed is not.
     
  9. foo82

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    So randolph isn't trash? That guy is a black hole.
     
  10. foo82

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    Oops understood post. Ignore reply
     
  11. rhino17

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    All of those trades are just terrible.
     
  12. Patience

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    All these scenarios basically amount to McGrady for Camby. I don't think Camby is worth it. The Nuggets basically gave him away for free, and they have become a much better team since (yes, I know about the Billups trade).

    Since you prefaced the trade by stating that you think Artest is gone, that is all the more reason we need a real difference maker in return if we are going to trade McGrady. Marcus Camby as backup center will not make up for the loss of wing scoring. In addition, Camby is not only overrated, but is way past his prime (which was circa 1999).
     
  13. idrockfan

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    When you've been around for 10 years, people actually care what you think. When you have been around for months, and post trade ideas where we give up Brian Cook and get back Lebron, then you get relegated to the "general" trade thread.

    ps. Hey Hot, haven't heard from you in a while. Good to have you back. And you're right, some things haven't changed.....except the thousands of new people. :)
     
  14. NIKEstrad

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    None of the trades make sense to me -- especially given the preface that you don't think Ron will return. If Artest is gone, you either keep Tracy and hope he's healthy, or priority #1 on any return is getting a starting caliber 2/3, preferably a 2.

    Trade 1: Probably the closest, but I don't want to be stuck with Randolph. And perennial lottery teams rarely give away first round picks.

    Trade 2: Houston makes out reasonably well, but Prince isn't the greatest complement to Battier, and doesn't quite provide the scoring punch I'd be looking for. Kwame and Camby are also a bit redundant as backup 5s, and we'd like a good backup 4 to Landry. Why would Detroit trade good talent like Prince and Afflalo to take a malcontent albatross in Randolph? They've got Maxiell who they seem to like at the 4, anyhow. You can't really play Maxiell, Randolph, or Landry together. Basically, you stole their youth and depth on the wing, and created a worse cap situation and a logjam at the 4.

    Trade 3: The 2/3s on our roster are now: Tayshaun Prince, James White, and Brent Barry. You really think a Rodney Carney or Kareem Rush makes that group look any better? Heaven help us if one of them gets hurt.

    Going out of our way to acquire a high priced back up center just isn't a good use of resources. It makes sense to sign a Mutombo for a low price and use him sparingly. It doesn't make a ton of sense to use your biggest asset on an expensive backup to, best case scenario, log 20 minutes a game.
     
  15. djohn2oo8

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    I'm leaning towards keeping Mcgrady, for now, and I also heard that Portland is willing to trade Channing Frye and Outlaw...What are the chances that Toronto would take Mcgrady back in a trade for Bosh??? Lol, Pipe dream
     
  16. djohn2oo8

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    Trades I like:

    Brent Barry For Marc Gasol
    Joey Dorsey
    Brian Cook


    I backed off of a trade for Steven Jackson b/c him and Artest on the same team is bound for trouble
     
  17. Wooderson

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    I don't like any trade which brings Zach Randolph to Houston.

    I don't think that Artest leaving is a done deal; in fact, I think that there is a very good chance that he re-signs here, fortunately making these trade proposals moot.
     
  18. worzel gummidge

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    Outside of the Rockets, Artest can only sign with either Detroit, Memphis or Oklahoma City if he's looking for more than the MLE. Otherwise he'll need to sign with Houston in order to work a S&T to go anywhere else.

    Artest isn't going to sign for the MLE or less. The Rockets aren't going to just let him walk as they used two first round picks to acquire him. Both sides would be glad to work out a S&T.
     
  19. AroundTheWorld

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    These trades do not make sense. NIKEstrad has already explained it. You seem to overvalue Camby and undervalue Battier.
     
  20. Rocketman2000

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    Don't worry Hot, I got flamed a couple of day ago for starting a similar trade thread! :)
     

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