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Hornets put Kemba Walker on trade block

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Carl Herrera, Jan 19, 2018.

  1. malakas

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    The Bucks would be better because Kyrie would bring more spotlight and Jason Kidd would be already fired.
     
  2. J.R.

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    The Charlotte Hornets would like engage the Knicks on trade discussions involving All-Star point guard Kemba Walker but New York and Charlotte haven't yet had substantive discussions about a trade involving Walker, per league sources. It seems unlikely at this point that the Knicks will want to meet Charlotte's desired return. Charlotte is hoping a Walker trade returns a good young player or a first-round pick, per ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski. The Knicks have first-round draft picks and a promising young player in Frank Ntilikina. But the other part of Charlotte's request is a holdup for the Knicks. Wojnarowski reports that Charlotte appears eager to shed one of its less desirable contracts. That would mean the Knicks would likely need to take on extra salary to acquire Walker, which was something New York was hesitant to do in trading Carmelo Anthony over the summer.

     
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    Walker
     
  4. Codman

    Codman Contributing Member

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    I love CP3 on the Rox, but if we didn't have one of the best of all time handling the ball, I'd certainly give Kemba a look. He's ultra-talented and, imo, underrated. If you put him with some better players, leadership, etc, he'd finally turn into the complete guard they've been waiting for.

    Kemba can score with the best of them, but the narrative has always been criticism for not being a better facilitator/floor general. I think Kemba is capable of both, but he needs a better coach and personnel.

    Whomever gets him will probably have to give up too, too much.
     
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    yeah but I'm not sure they'll want chris paul in return.
     
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    Kemba Walker brings a tad more than Eric Gordon when not being the first option but the scoring is actually about the same.
     
  7. J.R.

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    Which teams should trade for Kemba Walker?

    Less than three weeks from the NBA trade deadline, the market got more interesting Friday when ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski reported that the Charlotte Hornets have made All-Star point guard Kemba Walker available.

    What are possible destinations for Walker? And what kind of offers might the Hornets get as they seek to offload their bad, long-term contracts and get draft picks or young talent in return? Let's take a look at a few possible Walker deals.

    Cleveland Cavaliers

    Hornets get: Guard Isaiah Thomas, center Channing Frye, Brooklyn 2018 first-round pick
    Cavaliers get: Guard Kemba Walker, center Johnny O'Bryant

    Yes, I wrote Thursday that the Cavaliers should hold on to the Nets' pick rather than trading it to improve their championship hopes this season. But that was under the assumption that DeAndre Jordan was the best player likely to be traded by the deadline, and Walker's availability would make things more interesting.

    Dealing for Walker would be a hedge against the possibility that Thomas doesn't get back to All-Star level after his hip injury. Walker's also a little bigger, which makes him a better defensive option against the NBA's best teams. And Cleveland would be buying another year of team control. While Thomas will be an unrestricted free agent next summer, the Cavaliers either would be getting cost certainty with Walker making $12 million in the final season of his contract or have the ability to trade him if LeBron James departs via free agency.

    From Charlotte's perspective, the Brooklyn pick is the best they're likely to get offered for Walker, and the Hornets might also be able to flip Thomas for another expiring contract before the deadline and get additional picks. However, making this move would prevent them from gaining additional cap relief.

    Detroit Pistons

    Hornets get: Guard Reggie Jackson, forwards Henry Ellenson, Stanley Johnson and Anthony Tolliver, draft picks
    Pistons get: Guard Kemba Walker and forward Marvin Williams

    Few teams would benefit more from adding Walker than the Pistons, who would be an enormous upgrade over Jackson at point guard and could push Detroit into the East's top four teams. Williams would also be a great fit for the Pistons as a stretch 4.

    The challenge for the Pistons is getting Charlotte to sign off on a deal that offers little cap relief (Tolliver's $3.3 million contract is the only expiring one the Hornets would get) and no exciting young players or picks. Detroit would have to hope Charlotte still believes in Johnson's potential or offer multiple first-round picks to make this deal attractive.

    Indiana Pacers

    Hornets get: Guard Darren Collison, forward Bojan Bogdanovic, center Al Jefferson, 2018 first-round pick
    Pacers get: Guard Kemba Walker and center Dwight Howard

    No team could realistically offer the Hornets more cap relief than the Pacers, who have three players on large contracts with limited 2018-19 guarantees. (Together, Bogdanovic, Collison and Jefferson are guaranteed $7.5 million next season -- about $28.5 million less than Howard and Walker will make.) Is that worth getting only a draft pick that would likely drop into the 20s? Probably not, but if financial flexibility is the priority, Charlotte wouldn't do much better than this deal.

    Pairing Walker and Victor Oladipo would give Indiana one of the NBA's best backcourts and would give the Pacers, just 2.5 games out of fourth in the East, a chance at winning their first playoff series since they reached the 2014 Eastern Conference finals.

    One interesting alternative: Indiana could take on the remaining three-plus years on Nicolas Batum's contract. Pacers president of basketball operations Kevin Pritchard acquired Batum in Portland (in a draft-night trade), and he would fill a need at small forward. Swapping Howard out of this deal for Batum would allow the Hornets to create far more long-term savings.

    New York Knicks

    Hornets get: Guards Ron Baker, Jarrett Jack and Frank Ntilikina
    Knicks get: Guard Kemba Walker

    Because they're in need of a point guard, and because Walker is from New York, the Knicks will inevitably be mentioned as a destination. Alas, they can't offer Charlotte much in the way of cap relief. So the Knicks are probably reliant on the Hornets viewing Ntilikina as a better prospect than they could get elsewhere.

    Phoenix Suns

    Hornets get: Guard Tyler Ulis, forwards Dragan Bender and Jared Dudley, centers Greg Monroe and Alan Williams
    Suns get: Guards Michael Carter-Williams, Julyan Stone and Kemba Walker, centers Dwight Howard and Johnny O'Bryant

    Like Indiana, Phoenix could offer Charlotte major cap relief in the form of Monroe's $17.9 million expiring contract and a non-guarantee on Williams' 2018-19 salary. As compared to the Pacers, the Suns have more young talent to sweeten an offer. I've included 2016 No. 4 overall pick Dragan Bender here, but fellow 2016 lottery pick Marquese Chriss would fit too, or Phoenix could offer Miami's 2018 first-round pick.

    While Walker and Devin Booker would make an outstanding backcourt, the question is how motivated the Suns would be to acquire a 28-year-old point guard not long after trading Eric Bledsoe to the Milwaukee Bucks.

    Utah Jazz

    Hornets get: Guards Rodney Hood and Ricky Rubio, forward Derrick Favors, 2018 first-round pick
    Jazz get: Guard Kemba Walker, forwards Jeremy Lamb and Marvin Williams

    Utah could offer an intriguing combination of cap flexibility and talent to Charlotte. The Jazz's short-term contracts come attached to quality players; Favors would surely have some value to a third team as a rental in the final season of his deal, while Rodney Hood could be worth re-signing as a restricted free agent.

    Would Utah be willing to offer this much given the Jazz are currently five games out of the last playoff spot in the Western Conference? Perhaps not, but this deal would give Utah a compelling alternative to testing free agency this summer, and Williams would be a good fit as a stretch 4 next to Rudy Gobert. A starting lineup of Walker, rookie Donovan Mitchell, Joe Ingles, Williams and Gobert would make the Jazz favorites to return to the playoffs in 2018-19.


    http://www.espn.com/nba/insider/sto...alker-trades-charlotte-hornets-nba-contenders
     
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    To me Pistons are the team which makes more sense since they also can't wait to dump Jackson...maybe they would be interested in getting Batum too since Bradley can leave this summer and Batum can play both the 3 and the 2. I just wonder if a 1st and Stanley Johnson would be enough next to Jackson to get both of them, not sure...but maybe they can also trade Kennard.
     
  9. Normalus

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    He is not even that good. What is his worth?
     
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    I like the Pacers deal the most, for both sides! Makes the Pacers even more interesting, the Hornets get Al back who's been around and Collison & Bogdanovic are very solid returns. That pick is useless though.
     
  11. malakas

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    do they still though want to dump Jackson? Not so sure about that. Since last summer the situation over there in the lockeroom has improved a lot.
     
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    Kemba don’t have much value to me. I’d honestly have Eric Gordon over Kemba any day.
     
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    Uhm okay..I never said anything about value. For us yes, but Kemba is still very good and great for teams without a solid PG.
     
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    Don't know about that, pretty sure i read Woj or Windhorst talk about them weeks ago saying their desire is to trade Jackson, but maybe i missed something in the last weeks...?

    Not that this matters, but they're also starting to fall around 50% lately, maybe the "honeymoon" will be over soon...
     
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    Cavs give up too much, imo. Knicks, too - I'm pretty high on Ntilikina, and it would suck for NY to watch him develop into something amazing on the Hornets.

    A Walker-Mitchell-Gobert nucleus seems really good, for the Jazz. That Marvin Williams contract is tough to take on, though.
     
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    I’ve seen more of his college games over NBA.
     
  18. Carl Herrera

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    Bring Kember to Houston!
     
  19. malakas

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    some of the opinions here are kinda antiquated. Walker is not the same player he was 2 years ago. He has VASTLY improved.

    You say Gordon is better than him? Put Gordon in a Charlotte's roster and then watch at the trainwreck.
     
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