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Hoops World Rockets Trade Rumors: Asking for the Moon

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Carl Herrera, Jan 30, 2012.

  1. JoeBarelyCares

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    Doc scooped that the Rockets would pick Yao, when Popeye and everyone else had them trading the pick for Lamar Odom.
     
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  3. Aruba77

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    We aren't really in a rush to tade Lee. He's a UFA at the end of the season. Most UFAs end up staying with their teams. We have the cap-sapce to match offers and we've proven that we will match offers (see Scola and Lowry). If Lee signs a Lowry-type offersheet of $5 mil per, I could see us matching. Either way, we are likely to have Lee at a below-value salary for another year after this one (assuming he is not traded for something worthwhile).
     
  4. gmoney411

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    Martin is so untouchable that we tried to ship him out before the season even started.
     
  5. BONIERO1576

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    Morey is dealing from a position of strength. The team is playing well, NY is sucking and we have the 09' bunch expiring creating cap room for us at the end of the season. There is no reason for us to give away a guy like Johnny Flynn. He would be a fool not to try to squeeze teams in early negotiations.

    Moreover, these are not negotiations trying to land a stud. These are probably teams offering 2nd round picks for Johnny Flynn.
     
  6. anchel

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    The last one from Kyler with the Rockets it was that apparently we had signed Dalembert for 8-9 per year, 2 weeks before we finally signed him. And after all, I still don't get that "all but untouchable", I thought that meant like they are not untouchable, but, Lowry and Martin....?
     
  7. BONIERO1576

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    Wow, that's a complete rewrite of history.

    So, the weeks that the front office spent in China negotiating with the government and the National Team, that was just a smoke screen? The Lamar Odom thing was something Mobley and Francis floated out there if I remember correctly. Everyone knew we were going to pick Yao.
     
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    Bingo!

    Or is it,

    Yahtzee! ?
     
  9. jopatmc

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    Hoopsworld does not have street cred, you are right. And they don't have much if any connections to players, agents, and front offices.

    And the only street cred guys like SAS and Broussard have is the fact that they are repeating what their sources (players, agents, front offices) tell them. Which means they are essentially tools being used by players, agents, and front offices to generate buzz and get the phones to ringing.

    However, despite all that, most of us should know what Darryl is up to. HE'S TRYING TO ACQUIRE A SUPERSTAR PLAYER.....OR TWO!

    And if he can't achieve that, Morey is looking to make this team younger and more talented by trading away aging players for younger talent and shorter term contracts that give him cap flexibility and more tradeable pieces for the big trade that is eventually coming, sometime in the next decade. :(

    So, when you read media, you've gotta take everything with a big grain of salt.

    For instance, Orlando's stated desire to take back established talent for Dwight. Partially true but not totally true. They want to clear cap for a QUICK rebuild. Contracts are going to be a consideration in the Dwight trade.

    And Dwight going to Boston??? Forget it, honey. Not unless Deron is meeting him there. Deron to the Knicks??? Not a chance he wants to go there unless they have clear cap for Dwight. Deron really wants to stay in Jersey???? Not a chance unless Dwight is there. Lakers not willing to deal Bynum and Pau??? Not right now. But check back on March 15. Rockets asking an arm and a leg for all their players. Absolutely true...Morey is trying to flush all the best offers from every team so he can put together a multi-team deal, if necessary, to obtain Dwight and/or Deron if possible.

    Dwight wants to be paired with Paul or DWill in a major market. That's the truth! You've got to read between the lines and see, he isn't going to accept anything else except a pairing with one of those two guys unless it's the Lakers with a distinctive plan to add DWill through free agency in another year. For Dwight, it's all about playing with Paul and DWill in a major market. Whoever can make that happen gets them both. And if Dwight goes to the Clippers, you can bet your bottom dollar that the Lakers are making a move to upgrade their present team. They're not going to let the Clippers punk them in LA.

    All the pump right now about Lowry???? Don't be surprised if he is traded by March 15th. Do not be surprised! If Lowry and something else can get us a big time 7-foot post player that plays both ends, Morey will move him. Mark it down. Lowry's trade value is crazy high right now. Dragic is looking better and better. Don't be surprised if Lowry is traded. Because you're not really hearing anything about it from the Rox front office.

    Oh, Dally's playing great!! Let's hope he still keeps playing great. Because if he does, then his trade value goes up and we can trade him for something better and don't have to worry about signing him to an expensive long-term deal that he is likely to underperform with like he did his first big contract.

    Don't be surprised if your Houston Rockets, all these guys that have overachieved, etc., are a totally revamped squad come March 15. Lowry, Scola, Martin, and Dally's trade values will never be higher than they are right now.
     
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  10. DaDakota

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    What? Everyone knew were were taking Yao, CD and Rudy went over to China to work it out beforehand.

    That was not a scoop....lol.

    DD
     
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  11. arjun

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    Not sure if Scola and Martin have THAT high of a trade value right now.
     
  12. UTAllTheWay

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    I don't trust anybody when it comes to writing about the NBA. Everyone pretends they have a clue what they are talking about, but none of them really do.

    Hoopsworld is just one of the worst of the bunch.
     
  13. roslolian

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    Hmm a weeks ago thought you kept posting about how DM was too honest and talkative to the press. You even blamed the Rox FO for leaking the Gasol/Nene deal/rumor that got Sterned. Now he's Mr. Danvinci Code? :confused:
     
  14. DaDakota

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    You are confusing the issues my good man, DM talks to much to the press about the team's situation and how much it needs better players etc.

    Not that he talks about actual trades that might happen.....those, no one has the lock and key for.....

    DD
     
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  15. roslolian

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    Regarding the article, I think its common knowledge DM asks a lot for his assets. All the big time GMs do it: Denver fleeced NY for Melo, Utah got a king's ransom for Deron. OTH, you have the make a deal just to make deal guys like Kahn giving big AL away for a draft pick, or Memphis trading Pau Gasol for a then-unknown and overweight Marc Gasol and Kwame Brown.

    All this is just posturing by both teams though, deals will always happen at the deadline.
     
  16. roslolian

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    Ok good point. I'd also like to point out DM's just as unpredictable when he's drafting. Watching people moan about the random dudes he picks is so funny, esp. when I'm one of them lol.
     
  17. mastraw18

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    Doesn't every single team in the NBA want to get better players? I'm not sure that saying that to the press is that big of a deal when in reality ALL the teams are trying to do the exact same thing.
     
  18. alethios

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    IOW they are not being dangled out there, but if the right price/trade came along, we'd be fools not to take it.
     
  19. burnshroom

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    I don't think anyone out there would undervalue their guys. It makes sense to put it out there that you want so much for a guy. This would give other teams the sense that we are not getting what we want in return and are willing to take a lower offer since no one else is biting.

    It's negotiating. You start high, they start low and hopefully you meet in an agreeable middle.

    If this article said we wanted a second round pick for Scola and weren't making the deals a team would likely call and say "hey I have this bridge in Brooklyn to trade you, and since no one esle is biting... you have to take it!!"
     
  20. alethios

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    God, I love how that turned out. NY and Melo deserve each other.
     

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