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Home Depot Offers Recycling for Compact Fluorescent Bulbs

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  1. Jeremiah

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    Awesome news if you have these things and care about the environment:

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    By STEPHANIE ROSENBLOOM
    Published: June 24, 2008

    Some big retailers are promoting compact fluorescent light bulbs as a way to save energy. But improper disposal of the bulbs creates a hazard, because they contain small amounts of mercury.

    Paul Fariselli hung a sign Monday at the Home Depot in New Rochelle, N.Y., to promote the recycling program. All United States Home Depots will take part.

    Aldo DeRubeis bought compact fluorescent bulbs on Monday at the Home Depot in New Rochelle, N.Y. Sales of compact fluorescents climbed to 75 million last year for the retailer.

    Recycling them is about to get easier. Home Depot, the nation’s second-largest retailer, will announce on Tuesday that it will take back old compact fluorescents in all 1,973 of its stores in the United States, creating the nation’s most widespread recycling program for the bulbs.

    “We kept hearing from the community that there was a little bit of concern about mercury in the C.F.L.’s,” said Ron Jarvis, Home Depot’s senior vice president for environmental innovation, using the industry abbreviation for the bulbs. “And if the C.F.L.’s were in their house, how could they dispose of them?”

    Until now, consumers had to seek out local hazardous waste programs or smaller retail chains willing to collect the bulbs for recycling, like Ikea and True Value. Some consumers have waited for retailers like Wal-Mart to have a designated recycling day. Others bought kits to mail the bulbs to a recycling facility.

    The Environmental Protection Agency has been looking into putting bulb drop-off boxes at post offices, said Jim Berlow, director of the agency’s hazardous waste minimization and management division.

    But those plans are not final, and across most of the country, recycling the bulbs has been inconvenient at best. Industry professionals estimate that the recycling rate is around 2 percent.

    Home Depot’s program, which will accept any maker’s bulbs, will bring relatively convenient recycling within reach of most households. Mr. Jarvis estimated that 75 percent of the nation’s homes are within 10 miles of a Home Depot.

    “We’re trying to do the right thing,” he said. “Some of the things that we do are for the community and not for the bottom line.”

    Both Home Depot and Wal-Mart, the nation’s largest retailer, have vigorously promoted the bulbs as part of their commitment to the environment. Wal-Mart announced in October 2006 that it wanted to sell 100 million compact fluorescents by the end of 2007. It surpassed that goal, selling 193 million bulbs to date.

    Wal-Mart has accepted expired bulbs at take-back events in particular markets and is exploring how to do it consistently on a national level. Wal-Mart has more than twice the number of United States stores as Home Depot.

    The need for a national recycling program became apparent to Home Depot as sales of compact fluorescents, which had been slow compared with sales of incandescent bulb, climbed to 75 million last year, from about 50 million in 2006. And a recycling program is likely to drive even more people to Home Depot.

    “We haven’t really had to develop the infrastructure” before now, said Steven Hamburg, interim director of the Center for Environmental Studies at Brown University. “The demand wasn’t there.” But lately, consumers have been getting the message — in stores, from the media and through awareness campaigns — that compact fluorescents use up to 75 percent less energy, last longer and cost less over time than incandescent bulbs.

    Mr. Hamburg says the average household reduces its energy budget by $12 to $20 a month using compact fluorescents. Additionally, better technology has made the bulbs’ harsh glow somewhat warmer and softer, though many people still object to it.

    More innovations are on the way. Home Depot has plans to introduce more dimmable compact fluorescents within the year. Mr. Hamburg and colleagues at Brown recently developed a box that absorbs mercury — so there would be no need to fret if a bulb breaks in the box.

    Mercury is found in other common household items like electronics, appliances and pesticides. Its vapors, however, can harm people and pollute the environment, which is why recycling is encouraged. (In some places it is against the law not to recycle the bulbs.)

    “We generally think using these bulbs are over all a good thing for the environment,” said Mr. Berlow of the E.P.A. “The only thing you have to be aware of is the potential for them to break.”

    The E.P.A. devotes pages of its Web site to cleanup instructions for broken compact fluorescents. Before even beginning to clean up a spill, consumers are advised to leave the room (along with their pets), open a window and shut off any operating air heating or cooling systems.

    That may seem foreboding, but experts see a greater health risk from the mercury emissions produced by coal-burning plants to power less efficient bulbs.

    “The avoided mercury emissions are much larger than the mercury we’re using in the bulbs,” said Mr. Hamburg of Brown, referring to compact fluorescents.

    Home Depot’s bulbs contain 2.3 to 3.5 milligrams of mercury, which is below the National Electrical Manufacturers Association recommendation of 5 milligrams or fewer. It is a small amount, equivalent to the volume of the steel ball in the tip of a ballpoint pen. “Most people in their home have 1,000 times more mercury literally in their thermostat, let alone thermometers,” Mr. Hamburg said.​
     
  2. Faos

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    If we really cared about the environment we'd go back to regular light bulbs that don't cause a "hazard" because of mercury content. Just another example of something that was forced on us.
     
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    Though the additional electricity is likely to come from coal plants, a source of mercury (not sure what the math offset is). Just go to LED and I think that takes care of both issues....
     
  4. no_answer

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    One time a fluorescent light bulb fell out of the cabinet, so I just cleaned it up.
    AND THEN my husband finds out and freaks out and makes me call poison control because he thinks i'm about to die.
    The poison control guy was like, it's no big deal you'll be okay. :rolleyes:
     
  5. Apollo Creed

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    What a ****tard. Worried about his wife's health. Screw that guy.
     
  6. no_answer

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    I'm glad we're on the same page.
     
  7. rhadamanthus

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    HAHAHAAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHAHAHAHHAAAA.

    Idiot.
     
  8. Lil Pun

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    Who? Faos or people that use the bulbs? :confused:
     
  9. Invisible Fan

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    This is awesome news. They sell those cheap in California (energy subsidy), but a good number doesn't last the expected seven years.

    The poison control guy would need a hazmat suit and some special vacuum to properly clean it up under guidelines.

    A regular vacuum would blow mercury particles into the air for everyone to breathe.

    Rather than going through an ordeal that involves minor risk, he just hoped for the best and put your minds at ease.
     
  10. rhadamanthus

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    Faos, as usual.
     
  11. Faos

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    Bite me.

    What are you doing to save the planet?
     
  12. gifford1967

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    Did I miss something? Who is forcing us to use these bulbs? I've never used one.
     
  13. Lil Pun

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    Me either but I believe he is referring to countries that have plans to eliminate the older types of bulbs in favor of the newer ones.
     
  15. Faos

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    Actually I meant the hype that was forced on us as this being such a great alternative to regular light bulbs without all the facts being out there.
     
  16. Lil Pun

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    Oh, my bad. If I remember correctly, the same thing is being said about hybrid vehicles.
     
  17. rhadamanthus

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    Well, for starters, I'm not irrationally complaining that the small amount of mercury in CFL's consistutes a conspiracy by environmentalist crazies. Moreover, I'm happy to use said bulbs as they lower power consumption in my home, saving me money while simultaneously aiding in reduction of greenhouse emissions courtesy of our predominantly coal powered infrastructure.

    Coal, interestingly enough is mined and processed in spite of and in conjunction with it containing huge amounts of mercury. Some of which, despite pollution control technologies, ends up all over our environment - so much so as to make Faos' complaint, well... stupid.

    But hey, if we're going to make the brazen statement that anything that harbors mercury should be tossed in favor of the status quo, simply because of it's toxicity, why stop at CFLs? Let's get rid of all aluminum products! Processing aluminum requires enormous amounts of mercury. Said process is the major reason the gulf of mexico (and it's seafood) is full of the stuff (thanks Alcoa!). Gold mining is also a huge user of mercury - no more gold guys adn girls, sorry. And on and on and on.... It's a daffy argument that is really just being used as a shield by Faos on his typical crusade to protect, well I don't know what the heck his beef is with being environmentally concious, but never fear - if ever you advocate sustainability or recycling or common sense, Faos will be there to campaign for the opposite. I guess it makes him feel special or something.
     
  18. Faos

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    When was the last time you processed aluminum or mined for gold in your home?

    My "typical crusade to protect..."? Huh? What other "crusades" to protect can you quote me on this or any other forum? The only one I can think of is my crusade to stop Britney Spears from making music. Please tell my about these other "campaigns" I've been on. And what really makes me "feel special" is seeing you make up stuff in my name.

    And if changing your light bulbs make you feel special then good for you.

    Btw, my wife drives a Prius.
     
  19. Apollo Creed

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    Awesome! I have a black friend.
     
  20. SwoLy-D

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    :D STFU, D&D'ers... this was an informational thread... and ya'll turned it into a liberal vs. conservative one... :rolleyes:

    I was listening to a Rush Limbaugh story someone sent me on a WAV file where a guy called in and said that he felt the effects of a broken fluorescent "environmentally friendly" bulb. He said the local EMT and the local nurse at his work didn't know what to do when he started having symptoms from the fumes. He mentioned dry throat, watery eyes, and coughing as soon as he felt the fumes into his body. Some weird *****... :eek:
     

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