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Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by lnchan, Oct 12, 2018.

  1. lnchan

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    Updated something I did from 2015 that I saw on Facebook memories... and dang... this team is loaded comparatively speaking in regards to WAR even with injuries factored in. (EDITED TO INCLUDE 1998) ... and messed up with the manager... 98 was the Dierker era
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    The 98 Astros were far better than 05 and 15.
     
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    Yeah I was curious about that myself... possibly better even than this team... which kinda shocked me despite how bad that bench was.
     

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    You forget how stacked that 98 team was. My goodness. The outfield put up 15 WAR and then you have Bagwell and Biggio in their primes in the infield. With the Big Unit leading the rotation no less, and Wagner in the pen.

    1st round exit. Honestly, even with last year's WS, I'm still bitter about Kevin freaking Brown.
     
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    Where is my Mike Scott/Jose Cruz team?
     
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    If you want to do more work, how does last year's team stack up?
     
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    '86 44.9 WAR (21.7 oWAR, 19.5 pWAR, 3.7 dWAR), '80 42.2 WAR (27 oWAR, 15.5 pWAR, -0.2 dWAR)

    '17 51.5 WAR (41.7 oWAR, -2.7 dWAR, 13.5 pWAR)

    These all came from baseball-reference.com and I know different sites use different WARs, but there ya go.
     
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    Well ****. I just did that for every Stros playoff team, and it all vanished when I hit post because I took too long to edit that post above. Oh well.
     
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    oWAR / pWAR / dWAR / WAR

    80: 27.0 / 15.5 / -0.2 / 42.3
    86: 21.7 / 19.5 / 3.7 / 44.9
    97: 23.6 / 10.8 / 6.6 / 41.0
    98: 32.7 / 24.6 / -0.5 / 56.8
    99: 20.6 / 22.1 / 2.5 / 47.2
    01: 22.0 / 18.8 / -0.1 / 40.7
    04: 22.4 / 14.3 / 2.8 / 39.5
    05: 13.2 / 22.8 / 4.5 / 40.5
    15: 27.3 / 17.6 / 1.0 / 45.9
    17: 41.7 / 13.5 / -2.5 / 51.7
    18: 26.4 / 29.4 / 1.3 / 56.1

    Just for grins:

    00: 23.1 / 9.5 / -5.8 / 26.8
    11: 13.4 / -2.4 / 2.5 / 13.5
    12: 7.6 / 7.9 / -4.9 / 10.6
    13: 8.7 / 3.0 / -4.2 / 7.5
    14: 17.2 / 8.0 / -2.4 / 22.8
     
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    Makes that Kerry Wood game look all the more ridiculous.
     
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    2004 was a better team than 2005. I suppose missing Pettitte in the playoffs hurt, but 2005 also didn't have Beltran or Kent.
     
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    **** you sterling.
     
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    Also for grins, here's how the 1927 Yankees, the greatest baseball team ever, stacks up:

    43.8 / 20.1 / 4.1 / 68.0

    Add the healthy '17 offense with the healthy '18 pitching and you get.....
     

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