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Hillary launches attack Obama web sites

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  1. basso

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    desperate times call for desperate measures.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=4032659&page=1

    [rquoter]Clinton Launches Obama Attack Web Sites
    Clinton Campaign Registered Names of Two Web Sites to Attack Ill. Senator
    By JAKE TAPPER

    DES MOINES, Iowa, Dec. 20, 2007 —

    ABC News has learned that the campaign of Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., has registered the names of two Web sites with the express goal of attacking her chief rival, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill.

    It's the first time this election cycle a presidential campaign has launched a Web site with the express purpose of of launching serious criticisms on a rival.

    Votingpresent.com and Votingpresent.org are domains hosted by the same IP address as official Clinton Web sites, such TheHillaryIKnow.com, which was launched with much fanfare this week.

    The Clinton campaign intends to use these new Web sites to paint Obama as cowardly.

    Clinton has attacked Obama for having occasionally voted "present" as an Illinois state legislator when it came to contentious legislation.

    It was a legislative maneuver that was sometimes part of a plan by Democrats to give cover to vulnerable colleagues, though in some instances it appears that Obama voted present to avoid taking a position with some political risk -- such as with a bill that would have allowed children as young as 15 who committed crimes with firearms on or near school property to be prosecuted as adults.

    The Obama campaign referred to the websites as "politically motivated attacks in the eleventh hour of a closely contested campaign" and defended Obama's "present" votes.

    "Over more than a decade in public office, Barack Obama has successfully led the way on difficult issues from welfare reform, to the reform of a broken death penalty law in Illinois to a battle for long-overdue ethics reforms in Washington," said spokesman Bill Burton.

    "Among the thousands of votes he cast in the Illinois Senate, he used the present vote on occasions when he believed bills were drafted in an unconstitutional manner. On other occasions, he voted present as part of legislative strategies, such as ones crafted by pro-choice forces in Illinois to thwart maneuvering by the opponents of a woman's right to choose."

    Clinton has used these present votes to paint Obama as full of words but not action.

    "I don't think people want a lot of talk about change," she told Iowans early this month. "I think they want someone with a real record -- a doer, not a talker. After eight years of incompetence, they don't want false hope, they want real results."

    The Clinton campaign disputed the notion that its pending attack websites will be the first, noting that after it was revealed that Clinton had taken questions from supporters at events, Sen. John Edwards, D-NC, in November launched the short-lived website PlantsForHillary.com, purporting to be from various forms of flora supporting the New York senator, though that website was taken down after a day.

    A Clinton campaign official argued that Obama's campaign has a website called HillaryAttacks.BarackObama.com, which catalogues criticisms Clinton has made about the Illinois senator. (Not to be confused with the anti-Clinton site HillaryAttacks.com, which is not affiliated with the Obama campaign.)

    Clinton's campaign has also introduced, quietly, a Web site called Attacktimeline.com, which Clinton officials say chronicles the ways Obama and Edwards were criticizing her publicly long before she began returning fire. [/rquoter]
     
  2. updawg

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    pretty bad, but pretty par for the course of all politicians

    will this change your mind of voting for her?
     
  3. danny317

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    im not shocked.

    now if hillary's camp were to say that barack fathered an illegitimate white child out of wedlock...

    wait a minute, that trick has been used also.
     
  4. pirc1

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    All politicans are crooks, I just want some competent crooks that knows what they are doing and can benefit most Americans, not just a small select group.
     
  5. MR. MEOWGI

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    So it begins.
     
  7. FranchiseBlade

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    As I have said, Hillary Clinton is barely a notch above Karl Rove and the current whitehouse. I really hope she loses.

    I can't stand her, and her fake press conferences, her smear tactics, etc.
     
  8. El_Conquistador

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    I mean, look, none of us know for sure whether Obama grew up a devout Muslim, or whether Hillary had those two abortions, but what we do know is that these campaigns will turn very negative in the next 6 weeks leading up to Super Tuesday.
     
  9. FranchiseBlade

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    Too obvious even for you.
     
  10. pgabriel

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    Looks like he's running scared. the attacks keep getting nastier. No one attacks republicans on this site like that for personal reasons, even after they get outted.
     
  11. jo mama

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    fear not texx - i have a feeling your girl hillary is going to pull through!
     
  12. surrender

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    2obamas1cup.com
     
  13. A_3PO

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    I don't put Hillary a notch above the current White House. She's right in line when it comes to secrecy and smear. One of the things that has me considering Obama is that I consider electing him to be the biggest public repudiation we could make to the disaster known as George W Bush.

    If Hillary gets elected president after Bush, it will be a very sad day for this country.
     
  14. FranchiseBlade

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    You might be right. It could be that she hasn't had the time or the spotlight to be as sleazy and corrupt as Bush has been, but it certainly seems like she's trying to make up for lost ground.

    I don't understand how anyone who was upset with Karl Rove's tactics and the secrecy, and sleaze factor involved with this administration can be supporting Hillary as the nominee.

    So far she's taken every page out of Rove's play book she can, is trying to use them.

    I'm sick of that tone of politics. I believe that Obamawill be a real change from that.
     
  15. danny317

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    nice...

    sneak in 2 comments while trying to sound unbiased...

    1) obama may have grown up as a devout muslim (arent you the one supporting romney? what happened to religion shouldnt be a factor? or is it religion isnt a factor as long as they dont have a muslim sounding name?)

    2) hillary may have had 2 abortions (she may have but no candidate is sqeaky clean. by last count guliani has 3 marriages.)
     

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