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Hillary Clinton could be president, and here's how(Op-Ed)

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  1. Htownhero

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    http://www.sptimes.com/2007/02/18/Opinion/Hillary_Clinton_could.shtml

    She's too polarizing and her negatives too high, her fellow Democrats say. She's too cold and calculating. The right-wing attack machine will grind her up. Nonsense.

    By ADAM C. SMITH
    Published February 18, 2007


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    Over the coming weeks, we will try to make the case for how each of the 2008 presidential contenders could win the White House. These aren't predictions or endorsements, mind you, just food for thought. And we can't promise we'll be especially persuasive on Democrat Dennis Kucinich or Republican Duncan Hunter.

    First, in honor of her visit to Tampa this week, is Hillary Clinton. Next week we'll look at Republican Sam Brownback.

    Oddly enough, the three words dogging Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign come more often from Democrats than Republicans: Hillary can't win.

    She's too polarizing and her negatives too high, her fellow Democrats say. She's too cold and calculating. The right-wing attack machine will grind her up. Her 2002 vote to authorize the Iraq war - and reluctance to admit a mistake there - will sink her in the primary.

    Nonsense. First of all, the Republican brand is so badly tarnished right now that Clinton is only one of several Democrats well equipped to win the presidency in 2008. Second, polls consistently show Clinton is nowhere near as polarizing as she's so often pegged.

    In a Gallup poll released last week, 60 percent of voters said Clinton would be a good president. Echoing several other polls, Gallup showed New York's junior senator beating all prospective Republicans except former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, with whom she was tied.

    Here's the likely Clinton victory scenario: She will raise at least $100-million by year's end, and then drown her competitors for the Democratic nomination.

    Money, organization and goodwill among the Democratic base will ensure she wins at least half the early contests Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina, and by Feb. 5 at least half of all states will have voted and the nomination probably decided. Only Clinton is likely to have the money for what amounts to a national campaign to grab the nomination.

    Then comes the general election. Let's take her success factors one by one.

    - Fierce campaigner. She's married to the best Democratic strategist in the country, Bill Clinton, who happens also to be a giant in fundraising and energizing the base. She may not have Bill's warmth, but she's tested, disciplined, well-versed and unquestionably smart. She's also probably the toughest Democrat in the bunch.

    Longtime Clinton advisers Paul Begala and Mark Penn summed it up in the Washington Post last summer: "One thing we know about Clinton campaigns: Nobody gets Swift Boated. The woman who gave the (Bill Clinton) War Room its name knows how tough politics at the presidential level can be. Adversaries spent $60-million against her in 2000, and she endured press scrutiny that would have wilted most candidates."

    Sure, critics will resurrect Whitewater, Monica and Travelgate, but most voters moved on long ago.

    - The I-4 corridor. None of the Democratic candidates rev up the Republican base in opposition as much as Clinton, but then probably none are so well-positioned to win over women and swing voters who tilt elections. Women make up 54 percent of the electorate, and Clinton is a potentially inspiring vote.

    If states like Kansas, Arizona and Alaska can elect women governors, isn't it safe to assume America's ready for a woman president? The latest Fox News poll found that of all the Republicans and Democrats running, voters said Clinton would be the toughest on terrorism.

    "If you believe that women need a seat at the table, that we need to make greater strides than we already have in this country, Hillary Clinton is very exciting," said Democratic former Tampa Mayor Sandy Freedman, predicting that a lot of voters will feel inspired voting for a woman president.

    The onetime Goldwater girl has charted a decidedly moderate path in the senate (National Journal's detailed vote analysis ranked John Kerry the most liberal senator before the 2004 election, while Clinton in 2004 fell smack in the middle of Democrats). Plenty of pundits doubted she'd win over Republican strongholds in upstate New York, but she proved them wrong.

    Polls show an alarmingly high percentage of voters, 40 percent or more, have a negative perception of her, but President Bush faced the same thing when he won re-election. The Clinton campaign knows a big part of its job is better introducing the New York senator to overcome the stereotype.

    "People do have a perception of her but haven't necessarily gotten to know her record as a U.S. senator, a record that is full of results and bipartisan cooperation," said Clinton campaign adviser Mo Elleithee. "When people get to hear her talk about how she would get this country back on track and deal with the challenges today, they realize there is a whole new side to Hillary that they haven't seen before."

    - The map. John Kerry won 252 electoral votes from 20 states in 2004, and 60 more votes in Ohio would have put him above the winning 270-vote threshold. It's a good bet Clinton would win the same states as Kerry and, based on 2006 midterm results, have a swath of other states with strong potential to turn red to blue. Those include Florida, Ohio, Iowa, Arkansas, Arizona, Colorado and Nevada.

    Hillary can't win? Don't kid yourself.

    Adam C. Smith can be reached at (727) 893-8241 or asmith@sptimes.com.







    I am one of those who believed that Hillary couldn't win, but this guy makes some interesting points.
     
  2. Rockets2K

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    Im torn on this kinda

    I really dont like Hillary, maybe I havent looked close like he says, but the perception is still of the ice-queen elitist carpetbagger...but damn

    I like Bill...I dont begrudge him getting some action from a consenting adult and he without a doubt the most charismatic politician in years, and something inside of me giggles when I think of him as "The First Husband". ;)

    still way too early to decide imo, but I will check the candidates, and hopefully you guys will help me and others like me who dont have time for extended looks at the candidates and post all the interesting stuff you find to help us decide.

    call me undecided on both parties and candidates.
     
  3. Sishir Chang

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    I think its a good analysis and I wouldn't rule Hillary Clinton at all. The comparison to GW Bush in 2004 is apt and while Hillary Clinton is polarizing Karl Rove has proven you can win even if you are polarizing. Hillary might not run a Karl Rove campaign but consider how she's won over some traditionally conservative areas its likely she won't need to and could pull off a more traditional campaign by appealing to moderates. I could see her winning with either strategy.
     
  4. peleincubus

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    everyone keeps saying that mrs. clinton will raise tremendous amounts of money, which i assume is true.

    but i think as time keeps going on barack obama will have the abilty to surpass her in that area. once more and more people find out who obama is and what he is about i think the sky is the limit for him as far as money goes.
     
  5. ryan17wagner

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    Rudy Guliani will be the next president.
     
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    If Hillary Clinton is the best that the Democrats can come up with, then the Republicans have nothing to worry about when it comes to the Presidency. I would bet that there would be Democrats that would vote against her if she was the nominee.
     
  7. mc mark

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    Care to explain why?
     
  8. Htownhero

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    No way, the far right will murder this guy in the primaries.
     

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