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High school junior could be first to challenge NBA eligibility

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by BobFinn*, Jul 11, 2001.

  1. BobFinn*

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    Wednesday July 11 09:14 PM EDT

    High school junior could be first to challenge NBA eligibility
    By Mike DeCourcy - The Sporting News


    If you've paid any attention to the coverage of the shoe-company camps that began the first week of the NCAA's July recruiting period, you've been led to believe nothing transpired that was more offensive than power forward Amare Stoudemire arriving with a personal publicist to help him through interviews.

    As distasteful as that was, it was no more so than the media's lust to cast Akron prep junior LeBron James as a candidate to become the first high-school junior to enter the NBA draft.

    Understand that in the current environment, judged strictly on his basketball skill and nothing else, James not only would be the first choice in next June's draft, he probably would have gone ahead of Kwame Brown in last month's draft. There is no discovered player in this nation who has better equipment for future basketball success than James, who was named Ohio's Mr. Basketball and first-team All-USA by USA Today as a sophomore at St. Vincent-St. Mary High.

    But the NBA's rules regarding draft prospects, spelled out in the collective bargaining agreement with the NBA Players Association, say this:

    "A person residing in the United States whose high school class has graduated shall become eligible to be selected in an NBA draft if he renounces his intercollegiate basketball eligibility by written notice to the NBA at least 45 days prior to such draft."

    There is no room for interpretation there. James could not get around the rule by securing a GED this spring. His class still would not have graduated.

    James could challenge the rule in court, but to what end? He might end up locked in a court battle beyond his scheduled high school graduation.

    And if he is to go that far, why not take on the draft itself and the rookie salary cap, restraints against employment freedom covered by the collective bargaining agreement whose dissolution would be far more lucrative? If James could decide where he wants to play and negotiate the price, it would make him far wealthier than simply having his say about when he enters the league. Perhaps those who would advise him to leave high school before graduation should consider what it is they are trying to accomplish.

    If this debate serves any purpose, it could spur NBA commissioner David Stern to get more serious and more proactive about examining the direction of his league. The teams are becoming more brazen about encouraging gifted young players to enter the league before developing their games to the point where they are ready to contribute.

    If Stern wants to be in charge of a minor league, he might not have to start one. He could just sit back and watch the NBA morph in that direction.

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    The rest of the best and worst of a week spent at the Nike All-American Camp in Indianapolis and the adidas ABCD Camp in Teaneck, N.J.

    Best player: Some baby boomers who've got me by a few years make a big deal of the first time they saw The Beatles on the Ed Sullivan Show. Now, I've got a moment to compare with that.

    Watch James make one routine trip down the court and the whole package hits you at once: the size, the skills, the awareness, the competitiveness. The volume of his talent is staggering, even breathtaking.

    All that you've heard about his ability is true, except that it may be incomplete. The first thing that came to mind upon watching him was this: Magic Johnson's head on Michael Jordan's body.

    I did not see James do anything extraordinary when watching him at the ABCD Camp, but I'm not sure if there is anything he could not make appear routine. I'm not ready yet to say this is a better high school basketball player than Kevin Garnett, but it probably won't take two full years to decide.


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  2. RichRocket

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    What's the story on this guy? Big man or what?

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  3. SteveFrancis3

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  4. BobFinn*

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    How good is Lebron James?

    Good enough to be considered the best player, regardless of class, in the nation this year? Good enough to lead his #3 nationally ranked team to a second state title? Good enough to come within one point of beating the USA TODAY National Champions, Oak Hill Academy? Good enough to jump straight to the league?

    Lebron is that good and more, according to the legendary Howard Garfinkel. Garf, as the basketball world has known to call him, has run the legendary Five Star basketball camp for 35 summers now. "Lebron played as well or better than any player that I've ever had at my camp. It was ridiculous, he totally dominated. I've never seen anything quite like it.'' Words coming from a man that has coached NBA Legends Michael Jordan and Vince Carter.

    After all, this is only Lebron's second year of high school. He still has two more years to wreck the nation's best. "If Lebron was a senior this season he would be a McDonald's All-American," says Oak Hill Academy coach Steve Smith. "He's the best individual player that we've played against this year, and we've played against some of the best."

    The 6-7 native of Akron, Ohio plans to lead his St. Vincent squad to a third consecutive state title next year. With the skills that he has, he shouldn't have much trouble. --- PRIME PROSPECTS

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  5. BobFinn*

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    And this:

    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/preps/basketba/01allusabm.htm

    LeBron James
    Ht.: 6-6 1/2. Wt: 205.
    High school: St. Mary-St. Vincent (Akron, Ohio).
    Key statistics: Averaged 25.2 points, 7.2 rebounds, 5.8 assists and 3.8 steals. Named Ohio’s Mr. Basketball, the first sophomore to win in the award’s 14-year history. First team all-state in football as a wide receiver.
    Favorite subject: American literature. “I like reading books by the accomplished authors.”
    Favorite musician: No favorite individual. R&B and rap.
    Favorite player: Michael Jordan. “He accomplished so much. I want to achieve the things he did.”
    Describe yourself: “Unselfish. Basketball is a team game, and that’s how I’ve been brought up.”

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  6. SteveFrancis3

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    Here's one more:

    http://ohio.com/bj/sports/pluto/docs/023853.htm


    How good is LeBron James?

    Howard Garfinkel paused for a long time before answering.

    For 35 summers, Garfinkel has run the famed Five-Star camp for the
    nation's top high school players. Name a great player, and he probably has
    passed through Garfinkel's camp.

    Today's name is LeBron James, the 6-foot-6 sophomore from St.
    Vincent-St. Mary.

    Dick Vitale says James is among the top five sophomores in the country.
    He doesn't rate them in order. In ESPN Magazine, he writes, ``James is a
    tall, athletic point guard with serious skills and a brilliant first step.''

    The Sporting News says James is the second-best sophomore in the
    nation.

    A magazine called Athlon has James at No. 1.

    Garfinkel doesn't care about the rating services. He isn't concerned that St.
    V-M was 27-0, that it won the Ohio Division III title last spring, or that James
    had 25 points, nine rebounds and shot 8-for-11 in the championship game.

    Garfinkel has even higher standards, a historical perspective. He talked
    about the 100-plus NBA players who have attended his Five-Star camp,
    names such as Grant Hill, Stephon Marbury, Rasheed Wallace, Christian
    Laettner, Elton Brand, Dell Curry and Bobby Hurley.

    ``I'm afraid to tell you the truth about James,'' Garfinkel said.

    Why?

    ``Because I don't want to ruin a kid,'' he said. ``I've seen a lot of kids get big
    heads, stop working ''

    His voice trailed off.

    ``I'll say this,'' he said. ``You heard all those NBA guys I mentioned? LeBron
    played as well or better than any one of them when they were sophomores
    at my camp. It was ridiculous; he totally dominated. I've never seen anything
    quite like it.''

    How so?

    ``In the middle of the week, we had some guys hurt in our NBA (high school
    junior and senior division), and we moved him up,'' Garfinkel said. ``He was
    playing four games a day, with both the sophomores and our NBA
    divisions.''

    Garfinkel's gravelly voice rose.

    ``He made both all-star teams,'' he rasped, ``both of them, in his own
    division and the NBA division. In the 35 years that I've had this camp, that's
    never happened before. He can shoot it. He can pass off the dribble. He
    knows the game. He seems like a great kid. Like I said, I don't want to say
    too much, but I like this kid a lot. I don't want something to happen to him.''

    That's because LeBron James is a kid. Just 15 years old.

    Remember that as you hear the things said about him. Remember that
    even if, right now, he would be good enough to make most Division I
    college teams.

    Remember that he's 15, that his friends tease him about his big ears and
    he talks about their teeth or their feet.

    Remember at 15, you're supposed to be silly.

    But at 15, he has already played summer basketball in Utah, in Memphis,
    in Las Vegas, in Pittsburgh, and, believe it or not, in Milan, Italy.

    He talks about a stretch last summer where he had attended camps in
    Pittsburgh, Orlando and Tennessee. ``I was gone almost all July,'' he said.

    Then he sounds like a weary businessman, saying next summer he plans
    to cut down on his travel schedule. That's because all the camps and
    tournaments want a piece of LeBron James. They want a seat, even in the
    caboose, just in case his train carries him all the way to the NBA.

    James has people telling him that he'll be the next Kobe Bryant or Tracy
    McGrady, the next kid to go right from high school to the pros. And he has
    pictures of them in his room.

    But his favorite player is Michael Jordan. He even tells everyone he's
    6-foot-6 1/2, because that is Jordan's exact height. Jordan is the perfect role
    model for James, and not just because he is arguably the greatest
    basketball player ever. Jordan had strong values from his family. He played
    three years of college and considers North Carolina's Dean Smith to be a
    father figure, a man he still calls ``Coach Smith.'' Jordan went back to North
    Carolina and earned his degree, even though he had enough money to buy
    the library and name it after himself.

    Those pictures on the wall of James' room demonstrate the war for this
    young man's soul.

    Jordan, who waited for the game and fame to come to him.

    Or Bryant and McGrady, who went directly from the senior prom to the NBA.

    ``I try not to think about that stuff,'' James said. ``I have Dick Vitale's
    magazine on the wall of my room. To see my name there, I want to live up to
    that. It's like Dick Vitale invented college basketball, you know what I
    mean?''

    To a 15-year-old reared on Vitale screaming about ``Diaper Dandies'' on
    ESPN, maybe the bald former coach of the University of Detroit did start
    college basketball. Or at least, Vitale helped make it what it is today: An
    industry where 15-year-olds like James are rated and then dated by the top
    colleges and even the pros.

    More than 100 colleges have written James. The coaches can't talk to him
    until his junior year, but they all know his name. Coaches from Michigan
    State, Duke, North Carolina, California, Ohio State -- virtually every major
    basketball school in the country -- are in contact with St. V-M coach Keith
    Dambrot, telling him of their interest in James.

    LeBron James, 15 years old.

    Gloria James loves her son, wants him to be 15, to enjoy high school.

    ``He keeps telling me that soon I won't have to worry about a thing,'' she
    said. ``I'll have a house, a car, everything paid for. I tell him to take his time. I
    tell him that I don't need those things. My dream is to have my own chef,
    because I love to eat.''

    Then Gloria James laughs. She is 32, meaning LeBron was born when
    she was very young. She's only 5-foot-5 and played volleyball at
    Central-Hower. She is astonished at how her only child has grown, how he
    is blessed with such God-given athleticism.

    ``When he was 4 years old, he was dunking on our Nerf basketball hoop,''
    she said. ``I kept raising it, and he still kept dunking.''

    In the eighth grade, James was 5-foot-8.

    When he enrolled in high school, he was 6-foot-2.

    Now, he's 6-foot-6, oops, make it the Jordan-like 6-foot-6 1/2.

    His arms seem to hang down to his knees. His hands are huge, his
    fingers long and delicate. His body flows like a river, and his rangy legs
    seem to cover the court in but a few incredible strides. Despite the growth
    spurts, he's never endured one of those uncoordinated stages where arms
    and legs refuse to function in harmony.

    Gloria James talks about her son, the student. His grade-point average is a
    2.8, which is a B-minus. His freshman English teacher, Jake Robinson,
    says James ``has excellent penmanship and wrote some nice essays. He
    still has to work on his writing, but he cares about it.''

    Dambrot and his assistant coach, Steve Culp, the former head coach at
    Firestone High, run a study table each afternoon for the St. V-M players.
    James willingly finishes his work, even if he does it in between jokes.

    ``I never had to spank LeBron, not even once,'' Gloria James said. ``When I
    tell him something, he listens.''

    That's because James truly loves and appreciates his mother. He talks
    about the hard times, especially when he was in the fourth grade and they
    ``moved from place to place to place'' because of money problems.

    He says things are better now, adding, ``My mother is my mother. But she
    also is my sister, my brother, my best friend, my uncle, my everything.''

    He has a tattoo on his arm, a woman with the name ``Gloria,'' his way of
    honoring his mother.

    James is at St. V-M because of Dru Joyce.

    That's Dru Joyce Sr. and Dru Joyce Jr.

    Dru Sr. is ``a special person to LeBron,'' according to Gloria James. He is a
    summer league coach.

    James said, ``Coach Dru teaches me a lot, like how to be polite to
    grown-ups.''

    On that count, the pleasant James certainly has listened.

    Meanwhile, Dru Jr. is St. V-M's point guard, the wisp of a lad who is only
    5-foot-2, 102 pounds. Yet, he swished seven outrageously long and
    high-arcing 3-pointers in the state title game last spring.

    James got to know the Joyce family when he was 11 years old. Dad
    coached the AAU team; the son played. As did Sian Cotton and Willie
    McGee.

    ``We called ourselves the Fab Four,'' James said. ``We decided we'd all go
    to the same school together. We promised that nothing would break us up
    -- girls, coaches, basketball. We'd hang together, no matter what.''

    They're doing it at St. V-M, partly because the Joyce family was very
    impressed with the summer basketball camp run by Dambrot and the
    academics offered by the private Catholic school in central Akron.

    ``Dru (Jr.) was the first to say we should go to St. V's,'' said James. ``The
    rest of us followed.''

    When the Irish were 27-0 last season, they were led by senior Maverick
    Carter, now playing at Western Michigan. He also is James' cousin. But
    four of the top eight players were freshmen, the Fab Four as they called
    themselves.

    Dru Joyce Sr. and Lee Cotton (father of Sian) help out as assistant coaches
    at the school. Dambrot likes having them around, not only because he
    considers them solid basketball men, but strong, positive influences on all
    his players, not just James. When Dru Joyce Sr. or Lee Cotton talk about
    James, they both immediately start with, ``He's a good kid.'' They mention
    his loyalty to the other players on the AAU team and his unselfishness with
    his high school teammates.

    Last year, James led the Irish by averaging 17 points and shooting 50
    percent from the field.

    ``If he wanted, LeBron could have scored 25 points a game, easy,''
    Dambrot said. ``But he'd rather pass than shoot. That's why I think he can
    handle things and still fit in with the rest of the team.''

    At 15, LeBron James made a decision that surprised a lot of people.

    He played football, catching 42 passes, 14 for touchdowns. He was picked
    as St. V-M's Most Valuable Player on offense this fall.

    Not bad for a sophomore.

    ``Some people said I should just stick to basketball,'' he said. ``But I like
    football. I like being with the guys on the team. It's fun.''

    It's fun

    Nothing wrong with a 15-year-old saying that, at least when the subject is
    football. He likes being a part of a team. In the 1999 regional semifinals,
    James caught six passes when his school lost 15-14 to Wickliffe. After the
    game, he was in tears, unhappy that the season had ended -- especially for
    the seniors.

    ``He's a heckuva football player,'' Dambrot said, ``probably one of the best
    receivers in the state. I wouldn't be surprised if he played again next year.''

    That's rare in an era where great athletes are pressured to play one sport.

    ``I just want to make sure LeBron does well academically,'' Dambrot said.
    ``All the big schools already want him. We are already preparing him for the
    standardized tests. We want to give him every chance to get the scores he
    needs, because it would break my heart if he ends up at a junior college.''

    Dambrot is a former college coach at Ashland and Central Michigan. He is
    43-9 in two years at St. V-M.

    ``LeBron is one of those players who comes around every 25 years,'' he
    said. ``He knows he's good, but he doesn't seem to be very caught up in all
    the hype around him. He's really just a nice kid.''

    And those who know James are praying that he doesn't change.
     
  7. Dr of Dunk

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    I read about this kid while reading up on this past draft and prospects. Everything I hear about him is that his skills are insane for someone that young. I've always thought highly of DeJuan Wagner and thought he would be "the next big thing". Heck, we may have "2 next big things" around the corner. Another thing I remember reading about the guy is that he was first team all state wide receiver.

    I went ahead and dug up some articles for you guys if you're interested :

    Howard Garfinkel who runs the Five Star camp is mesmerized by the kid's play saying he's never seen anything like James in his 35 years running the camp. This includes seeing players such as Grant Hill, Stephon Marbury, Rasheed Wallace, Christian Laettner, Elton Brand, Dell Curry, and Bobby Hurley :

    http://www.ohio.com/bj/sports/pluto/2000/November/docs/023853.htm

    As a 15 year old, he tore up Rashaad Carruth who is one of the most highly recruited high school prospects. His team barely lost to Oak Hill Academy -- the "all-star" team that had Carruth and Diop on it.

    http://www.dispatch.com/news/sports01/jan01/562803.html

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  8. 4chuckie

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    I saw him play in this years state HS basketball torny hear in Columbus. Does have great skills, but he plays in in the small school division (D3 out of 4) so I didn't see him having much competition. Problem was in the championship game he played against a bunch of small, non-athletic white kids (sorry not trying to bring race into it just giving my details) from Piqua, Ohio (near Dayton, Ohio). He did play great, but I personally didn't think he looked like the 2nd coming of MJ. He was clearly the best player on the court, but there wasn't much competition there. Then again he's only a sophmore too!
    Also I didn't goto the Oak Hill game in the early season tournament but from what I understand he was awesome.
    So I don't know he has mad skills, just depends on how well he develops.


    The kid has great skills
     
  9. Rocket River

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    I wonder what it is like to peek at 15

    With all this high praise he has no where
    to go but down. When he enters the league
    - if he not a 20-5-8 guy folx will wonder
    if he over hypes

    If god forbid he gets hurt. . . .
    a life filled with what could have been

    Rocket River

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