He's getting away!

Agreed. Our PF is easily the weakest position night in and night out. Why they wouldn't go after Hill is beyond me.

 

Agree. We do not need EG shoot that much. But T.H is not much better offensive wise.

 

They like EG a lot, many fans here like EG a lot. Maybe that is why.

By the way, I now know why Mavs are getting better and better every year.

 

he shoots better than .400 and he can rebound... but what a minute wont we still have an over paid man in mo t on the bench??? thats why we traded for posey... with that said i doubt we get him.... but if we where in the 1-4 spot i think we would pick hem up.... but les wont pay that much money on a guy for 20 games.

but i wish he would.. then again we should have traded mo t and kenny t's contract... now thats a good trade

 

He would be a good pick to back up Taylor at PF. We can move Eddie to SF to help out Posey. EG isn't playing up to his potential and Tyrone can help him out w/ his post game. Also you can get a lineup of Ming, T. Hill, EG, Mobes, and SF. That would be a banger lineup.

 

One of the reasons we traded away Kenny Thomas was to clear out the glut we have at PF with Eddie and Mo. Why would we want to bring that problem back with signing Hill? It was clear that having all 3 PFs caused ALL of their production to go down and bring morale down for those guys because they couldn't get enough minutes on the floor.

I am not disputing that the Rockets need more production from the PF spot but to do that, signing a guy like Hill, and ADDING him to the team's glut at PF is not the answer.

We need to either:
1) Trade one of our PF's for someone like Hill
2) Be patient and allow Eddie to grow into that position.

My gut tells me that the Rockets really believe in Eddie and will allow him to grow into that position.

Chris

 

yep we love our eddie g... but since last year we wanted a true break out year... this is his 2nd year after all... his shot hasnt been up to where we had hoped going into the season but it isnt as bad as it could be

 

Yeah, from dunk and put-back range.

Hill will sign somewhere and not be wonderful. But he will help in 1/2 court playoff D and rebounding.

 

Tyrone Hill is the type of player who will come in regardless of the minutes he gets and do his job. KT wasn't. That's the difference. Hill, like a Najera or even a Madsen, may not play for a week and a half, then get 15 mintues, and you will see very solid effort and results.

It's not a glut at any position if the players you have there aren't producing. This is clearly the case. Hill might be able to come in and produce immediately.

That's the problem. The Rockets plan is obviously to play EG, and to make an excuse when he doesn't do well that he is young, and look at players liek J. Oneil and McGrady. Well, look at them. Oneil rode the bench for a number of years, and, while Portland was stacked with talent, there was a reason he didn't get much PT and McGrady was producing. It seems as if Eddie has gotten worse.

And what makes it even more confusign is that they've taken the position with Nachbar that he can wait and doesn't even need to play a second, so its obvious that they understand this option.

What seems clear to me is that Rudy & Co. are saying, still, that this is probably the guy they would have taken number 1 in the draft that year and there is a reason tehy traded 3 picks for him, etc, etc. He still may turn out to be a 16 pt, 10 rebound a game player in a few years, but that's no reason to avoid signing a experienced, veteran, effective backup right now.

 

Griffin doesn't need anybody to force him out of the paint and take jump shots...he does a fine job of that by himself...

 

that is the case indead... this is the rockets future like it or not

pg francis
sg mobley(next 4-7 years)
sf nachbar(or maybe a free agent in 2-3 years after we clear some money)
pf griffen(unless he does not develope in the next 2 years or we get a big free agent in 2-3 years after clearing up money)
c yao( with cato for his contract and as a resign or if we get a good trade with him in the future)

so like it or not we are going to be playing griff for the next 2 year at the least unless we get a good trade in our favor for him

and that will be the same with boki

that sounds about right, dont you think???

 

If you were Ty Hill, who would you want to play for, a team in the process of rebuilding (Rockets) or the #1 seed, who is one of the favorites to win a ring (Dallas)?

Just a guess here, but I bet the Rockets are not at the top of Tyrone Hill's list. Therefore, it is VERY unfair for anyone to critisize the Rockets for not going after him.

 

with this matter it goes like this. t norris's contract ends this year and rudy t wants to know for sure if he wants him next year or not... and it is well know that bokis rookie year will be more along the lines of grooming for the spot more than playing time he is next years first round pick remember?

but with posey starting, rice back, and norris trying to remain a rocket its hard to get playing time for boki

 

What? No love for Bimbo? Wouldn't you guys love to have a Bimbo AND a Moochie?

 

Some of ya'all need to seriously open up two web pages and compare Hill's stats with Griffins. You want to upset chemistry and rotation for 1.2 ORebs/game? And I'm using Hills career stat. It's .4 if you use the current season.

Do you realize that Ty Hill has never in 13 whole tries made a 3pter? Do you remember how much trouble the Celtics gave us by shading every defender to the paint to bottle up Yao. Now what coach or defender in his right mind would worry about leaving Hill at the 3pt line to double Ming? Zip. They don't usually leave Rice and he isn't shooting better than Griffin.

Are we that desperate? C'mon...Griffin ate Hils lunch back in December when Hill was starting:

http://www.nba.com/games/20021119/CLEHOU/boxscore.html

 

Make that November...dam* no edit...

 

cant forget tito, or even the hawk

 

at this point in the season bringing in a new guy would not help at all, but only serve to disrupt any chemistry we might have. let dallas have him. it dont matter, they cant beat us any worse than they already have.

im amazed that the cavs waived these two. that took some real heart. the cavs are obviously a team that is willing to do whatever it takes to win (the lebron sweepstakes). they saw denver trade away their leading scorer for chump change and responded in kind to the challenge. they will not go down w/ out a fight, damnit! never underestimate the heart of a perenial LOOSER.