Premise for the thread: It's easy and everyone knows it. We need a legitimate scoring threat at SG to break up the unholy creation that is Battriza. Challenge posed in this Thread: Clutchfans, scour the rosters of NBA teams and consider the upcoming draft even. In each response, do two things: (i) identify a SG that could fill the starting SG role, and (ii) present a theory or scenario where we could get one. Unfortunately, I think this thread is going to prove that there aren't a ton of good SG candidates out there. Finally, I suggest leaving Iggy out of this thread. That's been discussed to death, but this thread might shed some light on how Morey might value an Iggy in the dearth of other options. -------------------------- Naturally, I should have to go first. Point 1 - SG's that could fill the role? I go back to Kevin Martin and add Anthony Morrow. Martin's a proven scorer. Morrow shoots a good percentage from distance, albiet in a limited sample and for a craptastic chuck and duck team. Point 2 - how to get them. We could probably get Morrow for Buddinger. I'm not saying we should. From a need standpoint, we need SG much more. But in terms of talent evaluation, I know much more about Buddinger. Morrow just looks good on paper. As for Martin, I think Sacto knows that Evans is their Brandon Roy. In late game situations, he's going to have the ball, regardless of what position he plays, PG or SG. So you must surround him with good players. Sacto doesn't need Martin. Francisco garcia is competent, and Casspi is emerging talent. Sacto's roster has a glaring weakness -- PF. Sacto is not an FA attractive destination and having RFA rights to a Scola would be an excellent way to fill that glaring hole and provide a good starter. Scola's older, but he is productive and his style of play does not rely on athleticism. I would consider offering Tmac/Scola for Martin/Nocioni. We get under the cap for this year. Nocioni is a touch overpaid, but as a stretch 4/3, is a poor man's (maybe homeless man's) Jamison at a much lower contract. He has a good career percentage from distance. This would certainly improve our offense but would it just crater out defense? Brooks/Lowry Martin/Taylor Ariza/Battier/Buddinger Landry/Nocioni yao/Hayes/Dorsey Adelman as the mad scientist could make something of this. It's not a perfect solution, but damn I can't find a SG worth a crap in the league that's remotely availalbe. Ok clutchfans. Let's see what you got.
Von Wafer, and I invented the word "Battriza".....just saying. Oh, and Maggette would be nice too... DD
I like the trade idea... hopefully Sacramento decides they need to trade Martin. btw- Rileydog its Budinger not Buddinger
Battriza has a permanent place in Clutchfans vernacular. Good one. What's the latest on Von? I thought Magette was more SF in his style of play. Meaning he slashes well, but doesn't have the handles to create or shoot from distance.
Another reason for dealing Scola -- maybe I'm wrong but it seems that Morey believes you can find "value" in the draft (particularly late) in undersized PF's that will produce beyond their measurables. i can see us backfilling behind Landry pretty reasonably through the draft.
Sorry, I'm not up on college hoops. Who is Xavier Henry? Is he projected for mid first round? We gotta be realistic.
Martin only weighs 185 he will get dominated by Kobe, Tyreke, Roy and any other big 2 in the west C'MON MAN
1 Gerald Henderson 2 Behind stephen jackson and gerald wallace he sees no playing time and if the combo proven a success as it already is almost. We could possibly trade them a PF that would be able to help the Bobcats now but Gerald Henderson would not be my first option I would like to trade for a pacer, Dahntay Jones as suggested from my friend. He is unproven but is clogged at the scoring position with Danny Granger.
That's true and that's why he's not elite and might be available. But we have a couple of guys named Ariza and Battier to deal with the big bad elite SG's of the world.
http://www.nbadraft.net/players/xavier-henry Freshman out of Kansas proj mid 1st rounder... IF he declares
Mike Miller. And my darkhorse... Jarvis Hayes. Can shoot...not a great three point shooter, but can be consistent when given touches. 2 million dollar contract.
Dukie much? Henderson's shooting percentage (albiet a tiny sample) is horrific and is terrible from distance. Jones is a 6 year player and appears to be a journeyman. his stats are better but don't indicate he's starting quality. i think he could be a backup SG, but not the type of player that would take a starting role and merit the respectof defenses.
Maybe get more teams involved through a deal. Maybe get Portland to ship Aldridge to Sac-Town so that compensates the loss of Martin to Houston. Get Philly involved too so they can replace Aldridge with Speights and we ship them an extra bigman like Dorsey. Then we take on Dalembert and Iggy, But Portland throws Outlaw, Webster and we throw Lowry, Battier and Cook to Philly and they'll throw their pick back to Portland? Then we can if needed to sweeten the deal swap Hawes for Andersen. Since we need bigger bodies, i think Dalembert, Hawes can get us through and w get Iggy and Martin as the sweetners.
Miller - isn't he just a spot up shooter nowadays? would be a cheap get presumably and a decent stopgap. I'd look at him as a quality backup. Hayes - good suggestion. I think he is still young enough to be considered to have untapped potential. I like his game and it prolly wouldn't cost us much.
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I didn't know much about Henderson but I hear he is good defensively and offensively. Jones could have done a lot better than Ariza at the role he plays now and he only cost Pacers 3 million this season. I see him as a journeyman also but what if he could settle down and play Ariza's current role. He plays smart/strong can shoot the three, knows how to drive to the hoop and has athletic ability. Before Granger came back he was actually becoming consistent.
