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Helen Thomas: "GWB Worst President in American History"

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  1. Batman Jones

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    http://www.rense.com/general34/worst.htm

    Helen Thomas: GWB Is
    Worst President in American history
    DailyBreeze.com
    1-23-3

    Doubting Thomas offers press veterans her take on the state of the presidency...

    As veteran White House correspondent Helen Thomas signed my program Thursday evening at the Society of Professional Journalistsâ annual awards banquet, I said, "First time I ever asked a reporter for an autograph."

    "Thank you, dear," she said, patting my arm. "Donât lose heart."

    Those are words that should be engraved at the bottom of every journalism degree. That's because I'm not sure that any business can cause a heart to be lost or broken faster than this. And Thomas probably knows this better than anyone because she began reporting in 1943.

    Thomas, in case you've never seen a presidential news conference, is the woman who has haunted every U.S. president since JFK.

    I can't, in fact, recall a news conference where she wasn't standing hawk-like, grilling men who clearly didnât want to be grilled by anyone, especially a woman.

    Thomas, by the way, is the woman who said, "Thank you, Mr. President," at the end of her very first press conference in 1961.

    That, I think, is a wonderful tradition that continues to this very day. It shows a little respect to make up for the kind of lack of respect we used to hear from shouters such as Sam Donaldson, the man Ronald Reagan could never quite hear.

    I attended this Biltmore Hotel banquet for two reasons ÷ Thomas and Jean Adelsman. Jean is the retired managing editor of the Breeze and the recipient Thursday evening of a Journalist of the Year award, along with Judy Muller of ABC News, Kitty Felde of KPCC's 'Talk of the City,' Sue Manning of The Associated Press and USC law professor Erwin Chemerinsky.

    Odd how the world breathlessly awaits the Golden Globes while honors presented the people who watch the politicians or work for a cancer cure are as obscure as lice. In fact, there's a joke about the Golden Globes and the foreign press that presents them. Itâs said that on ceremony night you canât find a waiter anywhere in town. Take this from someone who once sat at another banquet with the foreign press ÷ a group composed of a dry cleaner from Pacoima, a large Eastern European woman in a turban and an Egyptian shoe salesman who spent the evening trying to cadge free drinks. Now that I think of it, they arenât much different from domestic journalists.

    Except when it comes to Thomas, who ÷ to the 100 or so people in that room ÷ is the very essence of celebrity, a woman who dedicated 60 years at United Press International and Hearst to afflicting the elected.

    Keep in mind that Thomas came up in the bad old days. Unlike Thursday night, when four of five honorees were women, she spent decades proving herself to the male hierarchy.

    As late as 1972 she was the only woman on the Nixon China trip. Still, she survives in a Washington press corps that she says has gone soft, accepting presidential spin without question.

    There was a lot of that in her speech, this talk of devaluation in the character of leadership. Not surprisingly for an admitted liberal, she held her greatest praise for John Kennedy, the only president in her estimation who made Americans look to their higher angels.

    Then came Johnson's Great Society and Vietnam. Nixon, she said, was a man who would - when presented two roads - "always choose the wrong one." He was followed by 'healing' Ford, well-meaning Carter, Reagan's revolution, Bush Sr.'s self-destruction and Clinton's damaging of the presidential myth.

    She seemed to have sympathy and affection for everyone but George W. Bush, a man who she said is rising on a wave of 9-11 fear - fear of looking unpatriotic, fear of asking questions, just fear. "We have," she said, "lost our way."

    Thomas believes we have chosen to promote democracy with bombs instead of largess while Congress 'defaults,' Democrats cower and a president controls all three branches of government in the name of corporations and the religious right.

    As she signed my program, I joked, "You sound worried."

    "This is the worst president ever," she said. "He is the worst president in all of American history."

    The woman who has known eight of them wasn't joking.
     
  2. Mr. Clutch

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    Wasn't she alive during the Harding administration?
     
  3. RocketMan Tex

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    Don't forget that he was a Republican too!

    Actually I agree with her. GWB is definitely the worst President in my lifetime.
     
  4. Mr. Clutch

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    I would have to go to Carter myself, then it would be Clinton. :)
     
  5. bigtexxx

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    Wow, you're really young to be posting on the bbs! What are you, 3 years old? Otherwise you would have lived through this one president who came before GWB who lied under oath, got a hummer while talking on the phone with senators, pardoned convicted felons on his way out of office, and then just for good measure stole furniture from the most sacred residence in the US. Great moral character if I do say so myself.
     
  6. robbie380

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    she is old as dirt and a bleeding heart. who cares. i'm sure i can quote someone off the street who will tell me bush is the best president ever.
     
  7. Batman Jones

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    I guess you figure Helen Thomas is three years old, too.
     
  8. B-Bob

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    pssst. Big Texxx, Clinton isn't in office. Oh, and foreign policy and economics are more important to most people than a hummer. Okay, carry on. ... Oh, and this just in... All presidents (but Carter) lie... Typically about things other than their sex lives too ... Okay, carry on.
     
  9. Bogey

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    I actually think GWB is doing a great job so far!
     
  10. Batman Jones

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    There's your guy off the street, robbie380.

    You guys can feel free to dismiss H. Thomas' take all you want, based on her age, her ideology, whatever. People who are serious about politics and follow the game closely would NEVER dismiss her take. She's probably the most respected White House correspondent ever, by people of all ideologies. Her opinion about who's the best/worst president won't cost Bush any points in 04, but it is a serious opinion from a very serious person.
     
  11. TheFreak

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    Not surprisingly for an admitted liberal, she held her greatest praise for John Kennedy, the only president in her estimation who made Americans look to their higher angels.

    So a liberal doesn't like Bush. Thanks for the update. Hopefully we can get a companion piece from George Clooney soon.
     
  12. Mr. Clutch

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    Helen Thomas has been very shrill over the past year. Early in the Bush Presidency she wasn't, and she was tough on Clinton (I think). But something has set her off recently, she really hates Bush. She's a Bush- hater.
     
  13. bigtexxx

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    Well you can feel free to dismiss the opinion of the AMERICAN PEOPLE, then, Batman. Check W's approval ratings. Some of the highest of all time.


    I'm eagerly awaiting cries of "oh yeah, but if it weren't for 9/11....waaahhh"
     
  14. ron413

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    You can't be serious.

    She is just pissed that Ari Fleischer does not answer her liberal loaded questions.
     
  15. Jeff

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    And Rush Limbaugh thinks Clinton was the anti-Christ. Whoopdee-damn-doo.
     
  16. NJRocket

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    good point ron...i watch those press conferences almost everyday on msnbc and many times, it seems like she is just looking to stick it in Ari's brown.
     
  17. pgabriel

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    Yea, eight years of prosperity, I really hated the Clinton years.:rolleyes:

    BTW, the media ruined the myth of the presidnecy. Does anyone really believe Clinton is the worst president when it comes to moral behavior, or is he just the one we know the most about. He may be the worst, but we will never know.

    I'm sure powerful men in elected offices didn't take advantage of their position before mass media.
     
  18. Jeff

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    texx: Read the approval ratings again. EVERY SINGLE PRESIDENT with high approval ratings got them during a time of conflict and/or war. It's called the "rally round the president" factor. Even Kennedy benefitted from the Cuban Missle Crisis. It's a misleading rating when there is a war on.
     
  19. bigtexxx

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    well that didn't take long :D
     
  20. Bogey

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    I think people give Clinton too much credit for the boom in the economy and stock market. Just b/c a decline in both basically coincided with Bush in the White House does not mean decisions he made affected them.
     

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