Franchise All Stars are gone. Plug some holes in the off season with aging veterans. Season spirals downwards. Fans want to see the exciting young prospects play and develop. Management plays vets, insisting all is well and playoffs are within reach.
That's the Astros 2 seasons ago. The 'stros already bottomed out and are in the midst of rebuilding. The biggest enemy of becoming great is being good. You can fool yourself for a while...thinking you're just one piece away.
To some extent but Les is not Drayton, he want to win. Les will fire people and make moves, he's in it for the long haul.
I've thought about this but wouldn't go that far, YET. Stros gave out some stupid money to a couple guys and ignored building with youth. Morey has done a GREAT job not giving out stupid contracts and has built a core of young players waiting in the wings. Morey was waiting for his Albert Pujols to become available and snag him up but sadly doesn't look like that will happen.
so both franchises employed a strategy that didn't work and are forced to look at rebuilding. got it. the only difference is one franchise has already started the rebuilding. the other may begin real soon.
Oh please. Astros did that actually in one season. 2009. 08, 07, and 06 I couldn't fault them. Lmfao lock this ****.
Terrible thread, lmao. The Rockets have made all the right moves. Can't blame management for injuries, geniuses...
Most of us know where your loyalties lye. Did you give up on Lance's fat ass when his stats started falling 2 years ago? You better hope the Astros get an owner worth his salt. not sarcasm. He really thinks the Astros are run better than the Rockets.
I love both of these franchises. They're both in similar boats, except that the Astros realized it quicker. I just don't buy the whole, "we are shocked that Yao Ming can't play for us" argument when I remember hearing that his long-term health would be an issue before we ever drafted him...and when every player whose ever played at 7'5" or above has 1. never logged the kind of minutes he did; and 2. all had careers that were completely over by their early 30's. Two seasons ago, Lance Berkman had an OPS of .907. His OBP was .399 and hit 25 HR's. Having said that, I WELCOMED his trade last season. Go find the threads in the Astros forum...I was just fine with it. It was time to move on.
Hard to equate in today's NBA but the Knicks before Walsh got there would have been a good example of the pre-2010 trade deadline Astros.
Proof is in the pudding over the last 13 seasons. Doesn't matter what I THINK. Really wanna compare relative success over that same period??....even considering the Rockets play in a league where more teams make the playoffs than don't...and the Astros play in a league where 8 teams out of 30 make it.
Nobody said we were shocked at Yao's injuries. Fact of the matter is, unless you make 100% of your deals with Minnesota and NY, you weren't going to trade Yao's contract for good talent until he was an expiring. GM rule #3: you can't move a huge contract injury prone player for good value. IN B4 "ROX SHOULDNT HAVE DRAFTED HIM IN THE FIRST PLACE LOL!!!!1"
It's not like the Rockets have sneaked into the playoffs when they've gone. They have four 50+ win seasons from '04 to '10.
