well, at least it's Tim Rutten. Libs must be proud to have the dumbest journalist in America writing op-eds for their cause.
Have you ever read a CNN op-ed by Glenn Beck? Egads -- wouldn't pass a freshman english class. There's just too much competition for "dumbest journalist" in this country. But in any case, weak, weak sauce from Rutten here, and I agree it's par for the course with him. Cheers.
I do think this article is poorly written. However, these folks, the nut jobs on the right need to be closely monitored and reeled in. They are dangerous because they have access to guns and are willing to die for their cause. They are indeed very similar to terrorists and the day of a right-wing suicide bomber will come.
Why do you defend these people? As a minority - I think they are a threat. Folks like Timothy McVeigh are out there. And we still haven't found the Anthrax guy. Just as we have to carefully monitor for Muslim terrorist cells - we have to do the same for the right-wing nut jobs - they are equally as bad.
Not so sure...after the DHS report we are seeing a few upticks in right wing extremism. Seems like there is indeed cause for concern. Doesn't this stuff bother you in the least bit - or have you forgotten Oklahoma City? Check this out: http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/06/10/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5078760.shtml June 10, 2009 4:38 PM Right Wing Extremism: Alive And Well Posted by Charles Cooper | Comments 114 (AP ) At this point it's little consolation, but Department of Homeland Security head Janet Napolitano turned out to be more prescient about domestic extremism than many of her critics. In April, she got an earful from conservative bloggers and radio pundits after DHS issued a nine-page report, "Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment," which warned of the potential for violence from rightwing fringe groups. In part, the critics' distemper was connected to language which they said unfairly singled out returning veterans and conservatives. Here's what the report said: "Returning veterans possess combat skills and experience that are attractive to rightwing extremists. DHS/I&A (Office of Intelligence and Analysis) is concerned that rightwing extremists will attempt to recruit and radicalize returning veterans in order to boost their violent capabilities." Napolitano soon backtracked from that particular paragraph and sought to defuse the mini-controversy by making the larger point that department's job is to monitor the risks of domestic violent extremism. "We don't have the luxury of focusing our efforts on one group; we must protect the country from terrorism whether foreign or homegrown and regardless of the ideology that motivates its violence," she said. But in the last month, the nation has been rocked by two instances of violence committed by suspects linked to the sorts of extremist movements to which the report pointed. Scott Roeder, the man being held in custody for the murder of abortion doctor George Tiller, was a member of the anti-government group, the Montana Freemen, according to an interview his father granted to the Topeka Capital-Journal after the arrest. And on Wednesday, Stephen Tyrone Johns, who worked as a guard at the Holocaust Museum in Washington D.C., died after James von Brunn, an 88-year-old white supremacist and military veteran, reportedly opened fire. Police are questioning von Brunn, and his motivations are yet unclear. But on his Web site, van Brunn touts a book he wrote as "a new hard hitting expose of the JEW CONSPIRACY to destroy the White gene-pool." Guard Killed In Holocaust Museum Shooting Shooting Suspect Wrote Of "Holocaust Hoax" Shooting Highlights Growth Of Hate Groups Blog: Napolitano Prescient on Extremism Photos: D.C. Museum Shooting Connecting the dots is guaranteed to be a contentious, if not fraught exercise. But as the news filtered out, some liberal bloggers did not hesitate to draw conclusions. The Washington Monthly's Steve Benen put it this way: "The Republican hysteria over the DHS report -- which was, by the way, initiated by a Bush administration official -- was always based more on a partisan scheme than reality, but the incessant complaints look especially misguided today," he wrote. For Matthew Yglesias, the grisly aftermath of the Tiller and Holocaust Museum shootings left little ambiguity about where to look. "I hope that everyone who mau-maued the Department of Homeland Security for expressing concern about this kind of thing feel appropriately ashamed of themselves," wrote Yglesias.
Why can't they just be nutjobs without tying them to any political party? Seems fitting to me, cause any political party is pretty much against terrorism. IMO. You are the nutjob for tying people to political parties when none of the people you mentioned were ever connected to anything political, just hatred.
right wing does not necessarily mean Repub. some Repubs are far right wing, but not all far right wingers are Repubs. you savvy?
I didn't support it. I do think you need to get a warrant before a wiretap. Need to follow the constitution. Not sure what I said that would make you think otherwise. But I do think that groups that call for the down fall of America or basically advocate violence against minorities or abortion doctors should be closely watched. That's reasonable cause in my opinion. I don't advocate going after anyone who buys a gun dude. I'm talking about the nut-jobs that talk about the race wars and push hate or white supremacy. The DHS needs to keep a watch on these people.
Who decides who the people who lose their rights are? What is the due process? Its seems you are unhappy with the current system so tell me how our liberties should further be sacrificed. Any power given up will be abused.
I never said anyone's rights should be taken away. You are putting words in my mouth. I merely said the DHS needs to watch these guys - meaning pay attention to them and what they are spewing. That's in the public domain. If they do things that warrant further investigation, that is due process dude. I am not encouraging or advocating the breaking of any law or privacy. I am not saying they should be infiltrated or wiretapped, I am not saying they should be subjected to intrusive background checks. I never said any of that, so stop trying to make it look like I am...it's quite annoying.
