...well it would be if the races were reversed. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.news-leader.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060414/NEWS01/604140391 Note that the motivation for the crime is unknown. However, if the races were reversed I have a feeling many would be calling this an obvious example of a hate crime. I wonder if Jesse Jackson and others will be coming to the support of this poor guy.
I got car jacked by some black guys one time, well attempted I fought both of them and they did not get my car, they did get my keys and then the cops came and said "well this does not surprise me there is a ton of black on white crime it just never gets reported"
See when is a hate crime the other way white on black the whole Jesse Jackson, Blackpanther people would all come out and make a BIG DEAL on it. but something like this "they arn't sure" and it just pass.
I friend of the family is an EMS worker. They got called to the scene of a beating near the Pappdeaux's on FM1960 near Willowbrook. 6 black men beat two Indian guys senseless as they were walking from their hotel suite to eat dinner at Pappadeaux's. The men were apparently in town on business (in that area, they were probably traveling for HP and coming to their Houston campus, but I don't know, none of my HP friends have said anything). Anyways, they were beat to a bloody pulp. A couple of witnesses stated that it was totally without provocation or warning, no words were exchanged. A group of 6 black young men approached the two men from some nearby apartments (apparently some pretty nice apartments) as the two men were walking over to the very close Pappadeux's. A witness said the two Indian guys started to walk a little faster as the guys approached, when a couple of the guys jogged up to the Indian guys, kicked them down, and proceeded to gang up and beat and kick the two men on the ground. After they were done, they spit on the two guys, yelled some profanities at the witnesses in the Pappadaex's parking lot, then calmly walked back to the apartment complex. Nobody is sure whether they are living there or visiting. A police officer on the scene said that they were having issues with some Katrina folks setting up a drug ring in that particular apartment complex and were looking for leads to bust them, but couldn't get anybody to come forward yet. The officer didn't know if these were the same guys or not, but said that they had probably pooled their aid money for a couple of nicer apartments to set up shop in a part of town with little competition. The EMS worker my friend was riding with stated that he had worked the area for 18 years and had never worked a scene with such unprovoked violence in that area. Is this a hate crime? The Indian guys are obviously minorities. In fact, they are visiting foreigners. Note that this is not one of those forwarded emails that someone claims to be from a friend of a friend. I personally know the EMS person that worked the call.
Yea this stuff is really depressing. A friend of one of my cousin's was working for Texas Instruments last year. He was doing some meditation in a park in a fairly nice neighborhood at around 7:00 (when there was still daylight) and someone drove by and just shot him. No real provocation, just shot a guy sitting on a bench and meditating.
Yeah, man, you never see anything about black criminals on the news. It's just a travesty how little you hear about that.
Well I know there are good and bad people from every background but the facts are if a white man hurts a black man it must be racial, if a black man hurts a white man you can't call it racial. The guys that came after me just did it for the hell of it they were chasing me and then I finally pulled over and they started fighting me and at the same time calling me whity or honky or cracker etc. etc. Now I know a black man out there has the same story to tell the only difference is a lot more folks know about it.
Because it happens with far more frequency to blacks. Furthermore the white person doesn't need Jesse Jackson or anyone to come support him. The whole system is basically run by white people. He is already supported.
Wow, there sure is a lot of resentment towards black people in here. My guess is they thought the Indian guys were Muslim and wanted to "kick some terrorist ass" if there were no words at all exchanged. Or it could be like my old middle school where a group of guys would roam around during athletics gym and look for weak-looking kids to jump. They called themselves the Black Cloud.
I don't think its resentment towards black people. I think its resentment to the double standard that has emerged. If six white guys beat up a black guy, its a hate crime. They go to jail longer, get more punishment. The NAACP and Jesse Jackson picket the trial and create and uproar. If six black guys beat up a white guy, its "just a crime." The sentences are in the normal range for battery. I think basically all these crimes are "hate" filled. Maximize the sentences for everybody that gangs up on someone and beats them half to death.
I am not sure what you mean by 'normal' range. Blacks, in general, get longer prison sentences for the same crimes as whites.
"Hate" crimes are the problem, you don't need different rules for "hate" crimes, just prosecute the crime. It sets up a double standard. I was in New Orleans one time in college on New Years eve and walked by a bunch of teenagers who were hanging out and dancing, after we walked by one of them ran up and punched me in the back of the head, I wheeled, but he had slithered back into the chuckling crowd, which was about 20 or so, I only had my 4 friends so we went and had a hurricane and drank it off. It was unprovoked and uncalled for and it was racial, but hardly a hate crime.... How can you hate a DaDakota? DD
I'm not defending the assailants obviously but people are jumping to conclusions as far as the motivation of the crime. the comment about black on white crime not being in the news is completely ridiculous.
A hate crime is defined as one motivated by the race, religion, color, disability, sexual orientation, national origin or ancestry of the victim (as defined by the US Supreme Court). Crimes against whites aren't exempt. A black-on-white crime can certainly fall into that category, and they are sometimes so labeled. And while it might make sense to treat every assault similarly, would it make sense to treat a case of cross-burning on someone's lawn as a simple vandalism? Surely there are some crimes that we agree should be treated more harshly because of the motivation or prejudice behind them.
i think its more the fact that the media doesn't run with the black on white hate crimes since they just arent as controversial and don't draw as much attention.
how many black on white hate crimes do you know of deserve media attention. its not like you always see hate crimes in the news either way. a cross burning in the yard in katy (the last hate crime I remember getting news in houston) is gonna get more attention then some kid getting attacked (not talking about this particular story). you guys are paranoid about the media and black and white issues.
ok let me rephrase...there are more groups on the side of blacks (like jesse jackson and sharpton) who will come out and cause a ruckus when any perceived racial slight occurs. these guys are able to draw media attention. that doesn't really happen on the white side of things. this would just be an extention of that.
Well, I'm not advocating leniency...you can give the maximum punishment...but do it everytime, whether the crime was "hate" motivated or not. If a white guy shoots a black guy because he hates black guys OR if a white guy shoots a black guy just because he likes to shoot everybody it shouldn't matter. The dude should get the maximum punishment. If I get beat up because I'm white or because somebody wanted my watch, I don't care...lock them up for the maximum.
