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Hampton back to Houston speculation

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by grummett, Jan 22, 2002.

  1. grummett

    grummett Contributing Member

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    The front page of Astrosconnection.com says that "rumors have begun flying" of a possible Hampton return to Houston. Personally, I think there's a greater chance that The Grocer will nominate Hugh Hefner to run his (and my) alma mater than pay Hampton's contract, but it's still interesting.
     
  2. haven

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    Who's Hugh Hefner's alma mater ;)?
     
  3. RunninRaven

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    Yeah, the Astros are pretty well set with starting pitching. Hampton was good, but I wouldn't want to give up the kind of talent necessary in order to get him back.

    I would have to see The Hun make a trade for him.
     
  4. Old School

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    Screw Hampton. He turned his back on the team for more money. Let him rot in Denver. And I don't care if he got along with Dierker or not...he should have sucked it up.


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  5. dylan

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    Dude, what are you talking about? Hampton didn't demand a trade, the Astros traded him because they didn't think they were going to be able to sign him. When it came to his free agency, why should he have "sucked it up" by taking less money to play for a place he didn't want to?

    If he had demanded a trade and been a b**** after he left I would understand your bitterness. But as it is I see no more ground to be pissed off at Hampton than if you started hating Camineti (sp?) after he was traded to San Diego...
     
  6. Rocketman95

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    Maybe you're thinking of Kile, Old School?
     
  7. haven

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    Isn't mlicki currently in our starting rotation?
     
  8. Rocketman95

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    Or Redding.

    I'd give them Richard Hidalgo, Daryl Ward, and Tim Redding for Hampton and Pierre.

    They wouldn't do it though.
     
  9. rocketteen

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    Who then would be our right fielder rocketman?
     
  10. Old School

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    That's wrong. Don't you remember that Hampton refused to negotiate with the Astros? It was big news at the time. Are you saying the only reason he didn't want to play here was because of the money situation? I don't think so.


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  11. Vengeance

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    As per Dave Mlicki -- this guy pitched like Greg Freaking Maddux after the All-star break last season. Perhaps he deserves to stay in the starting rotation to see if he's going to stay that solid. Heck, he started game two of the NLDS, and pitched his ass off . . . a Julio Lugo blunder was the only run he gave up . . .
     
  12. dylan

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    I remember that Hampton basically gave Hunsicker a list of demands that must be met for them to negotiate. The demands weren't met and there was no negotiation. One of the demands was widely reported to be Dierker's dismissal. Whatever those demands were I don't fault him for issuing them. At least he was upfront and gave Hunsicker a list of what it would take to sign him.

    I'm certainly not a Hampton worshiper or anything but I don't hold any resentment to him because there were factors he was not happy about in Houston. To my knowledge he was always very honest about the situation and was never a b**** in the press about it. I would welcome his return to the Astros as long as the cost is not too high.
     
  13. gr8-1

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    Wasn't Hampton horrible last year?
     
  14. Timing

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    I'd love to have Hampton but seriously why are we going to give up talent for this guy and pay him $8million/year when Pedro Astacio signed with the Mets for $5million/year. I'd say Astacio is in Hampton's relative ballpark of pitchers so why didn't we make Astacio an offer? Geez...
     
  15. Old School

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    Dylan,

    To be quite honest, I don't think the Astros need him or is salary. I don't think pitching will be a problem this season.


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  16. dylan

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    Yeah, Hampton was bad last year. He had a 5.71 ERA. Now keep in mind that he was starting in freaking Colorado. The years before that he had a 3.36, 2.90, and 3.14 ERA. I think getting out of Colorado could do wonders for him. Look at what happened to Kile pre, during, and post Colorado...
     
  17. dylan

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    Astocio also has/had a tear in his rotater cuff (at least, I think that was it. I know there was some shoulder problem) adn there was major concern among the Astros that it was going to be a recurring problem. Hampton has had no injury concerns for the last many years. That says a lot...
     
  18. dylan

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    I think our potential pitching is outstanding, even without Hampton. But of the 5 projected starters, 3 are going to be in either their 1st or their 2nd year as full-time starters. Another is Dave Mlicki, he of the 6.17 ERA last year. Now he did show a lot of improvement last year and I am not terribly upset with the prospect of starting him. But we're doing a lot of counting on some mighty young arms.

    If reports are true that Colorado is in desperate need of dumping salary, and a deal like Reynolds + Truby or Lane for Hampton can be arranged, I am 100% for it. Even Shane + Hidalgo for Hampton + Pierre would get my approval, although I am certainly less happy about it.
     
  19. haven

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    Juan Pierre... ugh... great in the outfield, but we'd miss Hidalgo's bat. Even in a bad year, he was dramatically better than Pierre with the stick.

    If that happened... I'd want to bring along Jason Lane rather quickly ;).
     
  20. DaDakota

    DaDakota If you want to know, just ask!

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    Are you guys kidding, a pitcher with a 3.00 era and a .300 batting average?

    The guy is a stud, I would take him back in a hearbeat.

    DD
     

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