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Hamas attacks Israel: Yom Kippur War, 50 years on

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  1. AroundTheWorld

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    This thread has become @AroundTheWorld hatred for Muslims.

    But to be fair… every @AroundTheWorld thread is dedicated to hatred of “group x”
     
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    These three categories:

    Trans, Muslims and "the woke".

    The holy Trinity of evil for ATW.


    A trans woke Muslim all in one being must be Satan incarnate to him
     
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    No, I'm ok with you.
     
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    You are a liar.

    The same kind of liar who said "these protesters are 'pro-Palestinian', not 'pro-Hamas'".

     
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    exactly.
     
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    when you stop giving clockmaking tools to germans they start sticking their arm up in straight lines
     
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    The World Is Paying A Deadly Price For Barack Obama’s Foreign Policy Legacy
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    If a belligerent state launched 185 explosive drones, 36 cruise missiles and 110 surface-to-surface missiles from three fronts against civilian targets within the United States, would President Joe Biden call it a “win”?

    Would the president tell us that the best thing we can do now is show “restraint”? What if that same terror state’s proxy armies had recently helped murder, rape and kidnap more than 1,000 American men, women and children? What if this terror state were trying to obtain nuclear weapons so it could continue to agitate without any consequences?

    This is what Biden and the Barack Obama acolytes, Iranian dupes and Israel antagonists he’s surrounded himself with demand of the Jewish state.

    And by “Iranian dupes,” I don’t only mean the Jake Sullivans and Antony Blinkens of the world, who worked to elevate the mullahs over Sunni allies and the Israelis, or even a Hamas bestie like Rob Malley or Israel hater like Maher Bitar. I mean assets of the Islamic State who promised the Iranian government to help out in any way possible.

    Their worldview is a cancer that’s metastasized within the Democratic Party. To these people, Israel will always be the villain. And if the Iranian regime’s murder of more than 600 American servicemen couldn’t cool that bromance, 1,200 dead Jews certainly aren’t going to do the trick.

    The Trump administration undercut Palestinian terror efforts, stifled Iranian ambitions, and created space for the Gulf states and Israel to enhance ties.

    Biden immediately reversed those gains, reverting to Obama-era Iranian boosterism. We’re now experiencing the consequences of pacifying Islamic ideologues. Obama might have sent the mullahs pallets of cash in the middle of the night, but the Biden administration openly subsidized the Revolutionary Guard with a $6 billion ransom payment, at least $25 billion in sanction relief, including $10 billion via a waiver, and so on.

    Let’s also remember that one of Biden’s first foreign policy decisions was to overturn Trump-era policy by releasing millions to Gaza that would be sifted off by Hamas, releasing funding to Hamas-allied United Nations Relief and Works Agency, and removing the Iranian-backed Houthis from the terror list.

    It should be mind-boggling that Biden likely knew Iran was moving forward with its attack but still gave his goofy and impotent “don’t” when asked about it by the press.

    Indeed, the Biden administration’s position seems to be that Israeli military and defense forces exist to allow Iran to have a hissy fit and save face. The Iranian attack is only “symbolic” because it failed.

    Just because you shoot at someone and miss doesn’t mean you’re not trying to kill them. Yes, the Iranians were embarrassed. But they almost surely view this as a win. And they also crossed a red line by firing on Israel from their own territory. Yet Israel is apparently the only nation on Earth that is permitted to fully defend itself only if its enemies succeed.

    Every conflict against Israel unfurls the same way: Its enemies threaten or attack the country. Israel responds and heads for a victory. Only then does the world demand “restraint.” Finally, the antagonists demand Israel rewind history to a more convenient spot. (Modern Democrats demand that Israel show restraint before it even has a chance to respond. That’s a new twist.)

    Those, for instance, who contend that Israel started the conflict when it hit a “diplomatic mission” in Syria last week are engaged in restarting the historical clock when it suits them. There are no Iranian diplomatic missions in Syria. There are buildings where Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps terror leaders coordinate attacks on civilians — against Arabs as well as Jews. Mohammad Reza Zahedi, the “general” Israel killed last week, helped plan the barbarism of Oct 7.

    Recall that the United States atomized Qasem Soleimani at a neutral nation’s airport. Though, of course, Obamaites protested that killing as well.

    Now, it is something of a cliche to contend that Israel must be right 100% of the time while its enemies only need to be right once. It also happens to be true. Israel, a country the size of New Jersey with a dense population area, relies on deterrence and preemption.

    Democrats blamed their strawman, Benjamin Netanyahu, not Hamas or Iran, for trying to “drag” the world into war. The New York Times’ Tom Friedman, perhaps the wrongest person ever to tread on this planet, theorized that the prime minister wanted “a war to shore up his own crumbling political base.”

    Axois reports that Netanyahu was reluctant to strike back, while his cabinet wanted to move immediately. The “war hawk” perception of him is a myth, created by the Left because of the prime minister’s open opposition to Obama’s mullah bootlicking.

    We have no idea what Israel will do. Maybe caution is the best policy. The notion that the Jewish state simply lashes out in revenge and doesn’t rationally consider all its options is preposterous. Whatever happens, it should be on Israel’s terms, not Iran’s.

    Despite what Obama’s retreads demand.

    David Harsanyi is a senior editor at The Federalist
     
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    delete / double
     
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    Obama has given or released tens of BILLIONS of dollars to Iran which it is using to wage terror. That is the point of that post. Reasonable people can disagree on how much aid, if any, that we should give to Israel or anyone else.
     
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    @AroundTheWorld Why should Israel be a recipient of a $26 billion aid package when time and time again they have shown that they are 1-2 generations ahead of their competitors in military hardware, they have a modern economy, and have a very high standard of living?

    Syria is a failed state. Lebanon is a borderline failed state. Iraq has been neutered. Saudi Arabia loves Israel. As does Jordan. The governments of Egypt and Israel are also BFFs. Iran is two countries away and has no viable air force.

    Ukraine needed aid 6 months ago. Ukraine is fighting a war for their survival against a larger, rearmed adversary. Israel is just bombing Gaza into ruin to rebuild with Jewish settlements and is trying its best to absorb Judea and Samaria, I mean the West Bank, with Jewish Settlers as well.
     
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    Because they are at the forefront of the same fight all non-Islamists have to fight - the fight of good against evil - the fight against militant Islam.

    Militant Islam has already infiltrated Western countries, but nobody is as exposed to it as is Israel. Their reality will become ours.

    Islam has always only been spread by the sword (now with bombs). No sane person who has not been brainwashed yet wants to voluntarily submit to that death cult. It's evil and aggressive. And it is attacking Israel nonstop.

    The fight of Israel is our fight, a global one. It's just the most exposed frontier.
     
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    The Muslim Brotherhood started in Egypt in the early 20th century in response to colonial rule by Britain. Its advocates an Islamic society by any means necessary because of the subjugation felt by the Great Powers. It was a third way, neither capitalism nor communism.
    Since then it has spread to most of the Arab countries because Pan-Arabism was soundly defeated by Israel. Hamas is an offshoot of this phenomenon.
    Islamist ideology is and has been fueled by Saudi, UAE, and Qatari money. Those are our allies and we have paid trillions to buy their oil.

    ISIS did not emerge by accident. Neither did Hamas or Al Qaeda.

    Israel is not protecting us from Islamists when they are allied with the very same gulf monarchies who fund the terrorists worldwide without any reproach.

    Iran has been and is a pariah state. They fund Hamas Hezbollah and the Houthis. We have hamstrung their economy since the 90s and we will continue to do so so long as Israel and our Gulf State allies view them as a threat.

    But all this is to say Israel can do it on their own. And we should let the Middle East solve its own conflicts.
     
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