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Hack Yao vs hack shaq.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ericmark, Dec 28, 2008.

  1. ericmark

    ericmark Member

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    At the final minutes, hacking Yao is highly rewarding for the oppoents:

    1. Turnover
    2. Low percentage shooting
    3. Fast break points led to opponent's easy points.
    4. No call at most time.

    Hacking shaq:

    1. Less than 50% FTs
    2. No Fast break
    3. Foul calls are guaranteed.

    Yao is an offensive threat but could become a liability. How to play Yao is a hugh test for our coach. Who fails, who leave. Anyone with me?
     
  2. Tom Bombadillo

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    What.......the..........hell............
    ARE YOU BLATHERING ABOUT?
     
  3. rocketshopeful

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    I think he is trying to imply that atleast Shaq gets calls and will make 1 free throw where as Yao gets hacked with no call and usually leads to a miss shot or turnover starting off a fast break

    the thing is, I have seen Shaq poorly officiated as well.
     
  4. shastarocket

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    He makes an interesting point. But the truth is, Yao will get the foul call if he works it in with a lot of force, like Shaq does. Yao is usually too fatigued at the end to do too much, so he gets nothing. I think as a coach, you still go to yao, but put him in towards the last 6 min of the 4th or something
     
  5. ericmark

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    We should count on our coach not the referee.
     
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    Shaq gets fouled more down the stretch because the other team intentionally fouls him. Also, Shaq is better at receiving the ball right at the basket where the other team has no choice but to foul.

    Did you notice where Yao was getting the ball time and time again yesterday? About 10-12 feet away. We know very well that when he receives the ball that far and away, he ceases to be an effective offensive player. His best move at that position is to hope for a double, pass it back out, and try to repost closer to the basket.

    Adelman took way too long to go to Artest. In that fourth quarter and overtime, that was the most unimaginative offensive basketball I've seen in quite some time. You're supposed to milk a play when its working. The Rockets, offensive juggernaut that they are, decided to milk a play that wasn't working. Without Artest, it would have been the same result we've seen numerous times in the past. Play through Yao exclusively in the fourth quarter, no T-Mac, no other shot creators, and let the other team key in on him and completely shut us down.
     
  7. ericmark

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    Hacking Yao is a matural strategy for Jazz. They know exactly what Yao is going to do. They even intercepted Yao's pass to the guard.

    We just can not take Yao out. Sloan figured Yao out, but Rick should outsmart him. We have a lot of weapons. Offensively, I would play more Artest, Brooks and T-mac. They have ability driving to the hoop with Yao attracting double team on the weak side. Defensively, we definitely need to play JVG's style with Yao more focusing on defense.
     
  8. ppzh

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    ye put him play in the 2nd half.
     
  9. Champ06

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    Agreed. Offensive foul.
     
  10. jkckwong

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    Did you just use the stat of Utah game to back up your argument?

    Just count the number of games Yao played in the last 10 days and you would realise that Yao could not deliver when fatigue set in. Coach should have more than one way of offensive plays and the continuous application of one that failed is beyond fans' understanding. Luckily, Ron was used as the go-to guy in the 2nd OT (I assume that was the coach's idea, not Ron's initiative) and we won the game.

    If Rox wants Yao to play clutch in the 4th quarter, a back-up C asap is a "must" and the coach's level of stubbornness must be lowered.
     
  11. ericmark

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    Sorry I may misled people here. Let me clarify it:
    Hacking Shaq is for a turnover in hope that he misses both FTs. Opponents like to do it since it rewards. Referees are willing to give a foul call. No pressure is from either side. One gets FTs, the other gets a potential TO.
    Hacking Yao is different. It does not matter what Yao does. You win the game if you get the call or his shots are falling. But how many times have you seen that happened? Or you did not get the call (call means points for Yao) or Yao was too hacked to shoot the ball, like last night. Opponents got more rewards out of it: TOs, fast break points, or Yao missing shots.
    The laker had the luxury to take Shaq out at final minutes. Can Rox afford to do that? Of course not. It takes Rick 2 OTs to play artest for a win. So I doubt RA has any better idea to play Yao, at least now.
     
  12. Spacemoth

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    I agree with a lot of posters here: this year has seen the best Yao officiating of any point in his career. Now he needs to reciprocate by acknowledging his status and going HARD to the rack at the end of games instead of pulling out for fadeaways.

    If there has been any lack of effectiveness of Yao in the 4th, it has been of his own doing strictly, not the refs. They still could do a much better job of course, especially when his defenders are mauling him, but in that moment where Yao is making his move to the basket the refs have gotten a lot better at calling fouls.
     
  13. Pizza_Da_Hut

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    Do you even understand what Hack a Shaq is??!!??!! Yao is amazing from the free throw line, to hack a Yao would be morally reprehensible!
     
  14. ericmark

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    Not really. How many teams are not hacking Yao now? Why did they do that?
    If you read my last post, you know basicly we are talking about same things.
     
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    Those are just your guessing right? Do you have any stats to support?
     
  16. ericmark

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    Come on. Read my post carefully. Hacking Shaq gets a call. How many times did you see Yao gets a call at clutch? NBA referees rarely call fouls at clutch time. Can you say Yao did not get hacked? Or just because Yao did not get the call, you call it non-hack/no foul?
     
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    My observation. You can not guess from nowhere. But if you want stats, we can pull out the games when Fans call Yao Mr.Unclutch.
     
  18. djimi

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    the hack-a-shaq often deployed are usually clear cut fouls, u can see the defender obviously bear hugging shaq. i doubt anyone would wanna try to intentionally foul Yao but i get what your getting at about yao not getting the calls. yao should just play like he's "Man on Fire" (that Denzel movie). like how he played when that Randolph guy from Warriors dunked and stared at him. yao must have that i wanna get back at you mentality whenever he's on the court. we all know yao have the offensive skills and the physical ability just that, he has to turn on that mental switch in his head to play like he can own anyone in this league. i think he still needs time or he needs someone from the opposite team to insult or make fun of him cos when yao is the Man on Fire, he's a beast!
     
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    The next question would be how often do they get poorly officiated respectively? What are the per centage? :)
     

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