I've been listening to all the G&R CDs this week- Appetite, both Illusions, Lies, and even Spaghetti. I love this band but on another forum they brought up the debate- would they have been one of the all-time greats had they continued with the original lineup and several more CDs? Or, does their limited catalog, like Nirvana, still classify them as an all-time great? I think I'd go with almost all-time great. Of course, you can apply the limited-discography argument to Jimi Hendrix, but his pioneering work guarantees him the "all time great" categorization. I think Appetite was great, the Illusions were mostly great, Lies was hit-and-miss, and Spaghetti was actually quite underrated (would have been easy for them to cover well-known stuff like Zep and Sabbath, so I applaud their song choice here). Also, some of Axl's misogyny and bigotry is a little hard to swallow- but several all-time great groups also fall into this category a bit (e.g. Rolling Stones). If the original G&R ever got back together (highly doubtful) and put out a few more classic CDs, maybe they move from almost to definite. Right now, they're still on the fence.
I love Appetite and Chinese Democracy. I think they screwed up on the double album UYI. If they'd just take the best songs from each album and released it as one, that would have been epic. I do love GnR though. Axl's a douche but he can write some great music. Not sure if they are an all time great.
on my list of all time suck bands, I'd put GnR right behind cheap trick and U2. I don't really care for GnR, but I would give my left you-know-what to have the talent that Slash does when it comes to guitar.
Wow, jump into my nightmare- that suck list would also include REM, The Who, The Ramones, Nirvana, Buffalo Springfield, Joni Mitchell, and Devo. All terrible, un-innovative group of hacks. And Joni? Chicks can never make a list of all-time great artists. Aretha, Chrissie, Debbie, Janis, Tammi, Grace, Tori, Ann and Nancy, Liz, Alanis, Diana- all of them are worthless.
May as well retell a story from the Coliseum. Saw them open for the Cult long, long ago, when they were unknown. The Axel (Axle?) guy was singing "Knockin on Heavens Door" (which is precisely Bringing on the Heartache, musically, another lighter song) when he handed the microphone around the audience. Some big hick grabbed it and said "This band f***in' sucks!" and the entire place erupted in laughter. Axel tried to kick the guy, and the guy (huge) went after him but was subdued by security. I never liked the band at all. Just too typical metal -- I didn't see any new ground.
I don't know if they're great, but they made 3 classic albums. I much prefer them to Nirvana. I don't get the usual Use Your Illusion ragging. If I were to cut them both down to one album I'd still have 18 high quality tracks, so it'd run way too long. It'd also be better than Appetite For Destruction.
I just want to say that I´ve been sorta backpacking in Costa Rica. Last night, at a bar by one of the rain forest national parks, they were playing Welcome to the Jungle, which was cool becasue we were literally in a jungle.
To me there is no doubt that they are one of the all time greats, like Nirvana, with their limited catalog. I think we got to remember when they came out- the rock scene was full of glam, glitz pretty hair stuff, where life was like neon lights. This band was never meant for the mainstream, never had that chance to hit us. But they played like they didnt care about what labels wanted them to be, they were bringing the truth from the streets, that darkside, that honesty, and that is what resonates to this very day, everywhere- in every sports colesseum to the rainforest bars of Costa Rica- the screaming voice of axl, izzy's talented song writing, slash's awsome riffs- and they kept it real- and gave everyone an uppercut. Thats way they should be considered as one of the all time greats, like Nirvana, they where not preparing themselves for mainstream and trying to be big, both these bands where where big because they were honest bringing part of the truth to you. Geffen took a chance for these to catch on and it worked. I wish labels would take a bit of a chance these days.
I would not consider Nirvana to be great. I give them credit for opening the door for alt rock bands, but I never felt they were awesome. However, GnR dominated at their peak. 20 years later, every time I hear "Paradise City" I still get good vibes. I hear "Teen Spirit" I think dummy who killed himself.
Nirvana was a one hit wonder. Everything else they did sucked. "Rape me?" Really? Gotta go with this song as the actual game-changer. Your dumb loser asses weren't even born yet, so shut up. Here's what changed the scene: <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/mib_xucXQk0&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/mib_xucXQk0&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object> If this song didn't change the scene, nothing did...
That's the first time I've ever heard GNR described as metal. They're about as metal as Strawberry Alarm Clock.
Nirvana had several hits. I love how you base most of your music arguments on the fact that you're ten years older than most of the people here. We couldn't possibly have heard AC/DC!
Wow. I totally recall some newbie kicking a guy in the face, and then realizing Guns and roses a year afterwards.
GnR was definitely metal. A rawer version... Something new at the time, but nowhere near Nirvana's one hit. That said, it was a great song. But just about every other song was either decent or unlistenable. I honestly would rather listen to a foofighters album track to track than Nirvana's. Nirvana was really crap. Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains and Soundgarden would've got air play regardless. One hit wonder.
Well, I guess ya got me there... <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/KVYDnQwi3OQ&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/KVYDnQwi3OQ&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object> SUFF!
