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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Band Geek Mobster, Apr 6, 2001.

  1. Band Geek Mobster

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    I was just wondering what everyone's feelings are about this subject.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. ZRB

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    Pro gun control. They aren't needed in this age. Ban 'em.

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  3. Jeff

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    Personally, I'm for gun remote control. It would make it much easier to fire while staying safe 100 yards away. [​IMG]

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  4. The Voice of Reason

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    I dont think we need gun controll. they usually just sit around the house inside their case, or in a lock box. occasionally getr up to get cleaned. a pretty boring life. its just those damn humans. they point guns at things. force small explosions inside of them. cause all kinds of problems. I want to see more human controll. they are the troublemakers

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  5. Timing

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    LOL! Nice job man! [​IMG]

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  6. DREAMer

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    I don't own a gun. I am holding my brother's handgun while he's in school. It's right next to the bed for security reasons.

    I also put it up in the closet (high shelf) whenever my nephews (or any little ones) come over.

    Guns are not a bad thing. Like VOR said, people are.

    You always hear people blaming guns on deaths but you never hear about cars. Cars kill more people than guns, ban them.

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  7. Timing

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    Uh oh it's the ole cars and guns argument. If cars kill more people than guns and heart disease kills more people than cars, should we just ban hearts?

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  8. ZRB

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    Cars aren't designed to kill, guns are.

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    Guns are great!... In fact I'm about to buy another one! This one will be the Winchester model 70 in 7mm Rem. Mag. -- It'll be my "sniping" rifle!

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  10. Space Ghost

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    I think anything more than 5 years old and single shot should be banned.

    The cost should drop and the availiblity should rise for any rapid fire weapons; I encourge larger clips, quicker reload methods, higher RPS, and more bang for the buck.

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  11. ROXRAN

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    What do you think about the mini 14, Space Ghost?

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  12. Space Ghost

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    Too small ... can't fit it in a coat pocket. Otherwise, pretty nice!

    Now this is more on my lines ...

    [​IMG]

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  13. DREAMer

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    ZRB,

    That just makes cars more insedious.

    Guns aren't made to kill people.

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  14. The Voice of Reason

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    I actually hate guns. I love my paintgun. it couldnt kill anyone if I had all day to do it though.
    http://www.hanta-force.com/Micah/gun-pic/STO-l2.jpg
    http://www.hanta-force.com/Micah/STO.htm

    i was just being funny, but we do need more people controll. there is no need for guns.. we should destroy every single gun in existance. than let people fight with knives, and bare hands. lets see how long wars would last now [​IMG]

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  15. TheFreak

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    I think we all would like to see guns eliminated. Since that's not possible, though, the law-abiding citizens should have access to the same guns that the criminals do.
     
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    Thank goodness for our Founding Fathers. They had enough sense to understand that we have an inalienable right (natural, or God given right) to defend ourselves. In the U.S., we keep and bear arms not only against robbers and burglers, but to keep government honest. The second amendment is purposely misinterpreted often, yet its meaning becomes quite clear if we look for the same language in other documents from the late 18th century.

    A well regulated (well intentioned) Militia (able men), being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

    Today's interpretation- Law abiding, armed people are necessary to our security, and their right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

    ZR8, people like you need to understand that our constitution is not a document that outlines what powers our government possesses, rather it is a document that outlines what our Federal government can not do. One of these things is take guns away.

    In Western Australia, short sighted people passed a law that allowed police officers and government officials to go house to house and take people's guns. The result was an increase in murder, rape, robbery, and burglary. The most vulnerable, old people, were victimized the worst because they had their equilizer (their guns) taken away.

    ZR8, the path to hell is paved with good intentions. You can never take away the guns from criminals, you can only disarm law-abiding citizens.

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  17. ZRB

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    The constitution can, and should be changed. They repealed prohibition, and changed voting rights. They can do the same with guns. It would take years, but I'm sure that eventually guns would be phased out of society. If they stopped making bullets, those criminals couldn't load their guns. Interesting...

    AND FOR GOD'S SAKE, ITS ZRB! It is not ZR8, its ZRB. B B B B B B B B B B B
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  18. Jim1965

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    ZRB

    Sorry about the name thing.

    You are right, the constitution can be changed. Unfortunately, gun control advocates know they will never get 2/3 of the states to agree with them, so they ignore the constitution and try to limit gun ownership anyway.

    The fact is that many people, like myself, consider the right to defend our homes and the 2nd amendment EQUAL to the right to free speech, freedom of religion, freedom of the press, etc.

    Without sounding too belligerant, I will just say that Liberals will find taking away our guns about as easy as taking away any of our other inalienable rights.

    BTW, if we stop making bullets, how will the police defend themselves?

    If we take all the guns away from the good guys, how will older people protect their homes?

    If criminals know that nobody is a home is armed, and the criminals are packing heat, what will stop home invasions?

    If the local constable or sheriff knows he can kick your door down without fear of getting shot, what will prevent government to run amok?

    Your intentions are pure, but your logic is naive. Guns save lives, and help keep our country free.



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  19. JayZ750

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    I agree with the right to bear arms. And I agree that what is needed more is human control. But I am honeslty confused as to why some people act upon their right.

    Hunting, fine. Although I dont understand and dont agree with stuffing heads and that sorta thing.

    Bad neighborhood, ok. If you are really in a unsafe neighborhood and feel it is vital to your protection then fine.

    But I dont understand why people just own a gun to own a gun. I have a friend who likes to go to the shooting range quite often. I beleive he has a couple of guns now and is a card carrying member of the NRA. Plus, he has applied to and been granted the right to walk around with his gun on him. Now this is a very rich friend. Ther is no need in the world for him to walk around with the gun. In fact, he never walks around, he just rides around in limousines. It just baffles me.

    Dreamer, why are you holding a gun for your brother? If he doesnt need it while he is in school, he should sell it, and if he really needs a gun when he gets out of school he can buy a new one. The situation with your nephews sounds like it can be dangerous. At the very least buy a safe and lock the gun up when they come over.



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    "Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest." --Mahatma Gandhi, An Autobiography, p. 446

    "I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them." George Mason, during Virginia's Convention to Ratify the Constitution (1788).

    "…The said Constitution be never construed …to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms." Samuel Adams, during Massachusetts's Convention to Ratify the Constitution (1788).

    "Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined." Patrick Henry, during Virginia's Convention to Ratify the Constitution (1788)

    "Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation, the existence of subordinate governments, to which the people are attached, and by which the militia officers are appointed, forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition, more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can admit of. Notwithstanding the military establishments in the several kingdoms of Europe, which are carried as far as the public resources will bear, the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms." --James Madison, The Federalist Papers, No. 46

    "Suppose that we let a regular army, fully equal to the resources of the country, be formed; and let it be entirely at the devotion of the federal: still it would not be going to far to say that the State governments with the people at their side would be able to repel the danger...half a million citizens with arms in their hands" --James Madison, The Federalist Papers

    "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."-- Benjamin Franklin Historical Review of Pennsylvania. [Note: This sentence was often quoted in the Revolutionary period. It occurs even so early as November, 1755, in an answer by the Assembly of Pennsylvania to the Governor, and forms the motto of Franklin's "Historical Review," 1759, appearing also in the body of the work.--Frothingham: Rise of the Republic of the United States, p. 413. ]




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