Am i the only one who thinks that the GSW are looking like complete a-holes in this whole M Jax fiasco? I mean, its obvious that they really don't want him back. They are only waiting to see if Dampier, Foyle or Fortson gets injured before the 14 day period is up to see if they want to match the Rocks offer. If I'm a free agent, and Golden State didn't look like an attractive place to play before, I would be completely turned off by this. And to top it off, M Jax is getting the raw end of the deal since he can't participate in pre season camp etc. I bet that the GSW are talking to the Nuggets as we speak now that Mcdyess is out for at least 1/2 this season. I just hope nothing gets done.
The Warriors main concern is the Warriors. I would hope that the Rockets would take the full 15 days to explore all of their options if the situation ever comes about.
Don't get too frustrated with GS. If the Rockets were in their position, Rockets fans would be twisting in the wind waiting to find out what direction the club was going to head. So imagine the Golden State Warrior FAN twisting in the wind right now. GS has less to lose...Houston has an enormous amount to gain. The whole deal seems magnified because Marc Jackson could be the difference between making the playoffs and staying home during the post-season. I wouldn't say that GW looks like a-holes right now. I would love to hear their attitude on the entire situation, but that would give away their strategic advantage of controlling the fate of other teams. I feel that the closer to the deadline we get, the better it will be for Houston if nothing has happened. If GS had a good deal on the table, they might have moved that way by now.
I would think that FAs would be more concerned that GSW sucks than they would that the Warriors operated in their best interest concerning Marc Jackson. Besides, which way is an unrestricted FA that signs with GSW ever able to go through this restricted FA mumbo jumbo with Golden State? It can't happen.
The part that involved us holding up the deal for a week to examine Rice's foot AFTER the deal was announced and considered essentially in the can...
You just think that way 'cause you're a biased Rockets fan. I bet the majority of the NBA world is paying very little concern to our situation.
Maybe so...I just don't think there is all that much going on out there other than the Mase situation
leebigez I wish that you would not share your comments Rice is what we in the basketball knowledgable world call an upgrade to Morris and Lang-boy
I couldn't agree with you more NJROcket. I don't think the Warriors could have played this situation any worse. If they had thought for a moment that they were not going to keep Jackson, they should have signed and traded him early in the summer, back when other teams had some cap room left and players to trade. By waiting for an offer to establish Jackson's value, they let the market pass them by and played themselves right into the no win situation they are in now. As such, this situation bears no resemblance to the Rice deal, where Les held out for more from the other teams in light of Rice's nagging injury. That was a farily well played extortion. St. Jean on the other hand is going to get nothing but egg on his face.
Rice is going backwards though. Here is a guy that talked himself out off a championship team. His scoring is going down and fg %. I'm not saying he's not better than Morris or Langhi, but thats just like saying Hakeem isn't better than cato and collier. We were suppose to add pieces to a very young team. He may add, but how long will it be before he's crying about shot? Kobe and Shaq are 2 of the best plaers in the league, francis is Maybe top 20 and Cat is lower than that. He cried when he had two of the best, why wouldn't he cry this time? Plus he's damaged goods with that foot. The foot is the same problem pebby had problems with. Plantar fascitis is nothing to play with, ask illgaskus. I hope it works, but Glen is stuck in 97 when he avg 27 and was one of the elite players. If you line him up in the west, whom does he have an advantage against? Vancuver and Sa is the only adv he has, so i don't think he makes us that much better. Would you take Rice over: Marshall, Dirk, Lewis, Odom, Marion, Kobe, Jamison, or Peja? I didn't think so.
GSW are doing the professional thing waiting the 14 days out for their club. However, it does seem pretty true from most of the media statements that GSW are trying to screw Jackson pretty bad and do everything they can to pay the least possible for this guy. And off topic: I got to agree with leegibez (i dunno why but i usually seem to agree with his posts)... I wont start a new thread because it's an old debate.... But I think getting Rice wasn't favorable for the Rockets and while we're at it... signing Taylor and Cato at their prices and length is horrible. Rice has an old and beatup body... his value is linear. He wont be a commodity for the Rocks to trade and he is past his prime. When it comes to Taylor and Cato, you got two guys who were paid too much for their character and potential. It's hard to explain, an intangibility. But they both seemed to have a lethargic desire and lack of intensity to up the level of their game when signed like a hungry Griffin. (Maybe wrong here at Taylor's offseason show of effort) Their contracts make the following years difficult for the Rockets to deal any other player into the equation and Griffin and Marc Jackson will be better eventually at those spots (although I can see how the Rocks couldn't forsee either Griffin or Jackson and they needed strength this year)... but the length of such costly contracts just makes me shake my head. Luckily, when it's time to deal with the contracts of Francis, Griffin, Mobley again, either Rice, Cato or Taylor's contract will conveniently also be gone again.
Speaking of going backwards, this whole conversation was hashed and rehashed 8,000 times last month. There are good arguments on both sides and time will tell if it works out. It is a gamble that just might pay big dividends. In the meantime, we dumped Shandon who is more useless, nearly as expensive, and brings no leadership. If GRice doesn't start complaining, he brings a lot of experience and if does nothing but nail 3's all day, he do wonders on this team. And I'd say Steve and Cat are much easier guys to get along with than Shaq and Kobe. And everybody loves Rudy so I just doubt Rice will be unhappy here. -krosfyah