Chris Bosh really doesn't want to give up that sixth year By Mark Deeks Per ESPN's Chris Broussard, in this video clip, Chris Bosh really does not want to give up any money whatsoever. He wants to sign for the maximum, and he wants to do so for six years. And if he can get Toronto to sign and trade him somewhere, he'll be able to achieve that. If Bosh were to sign outright with a team that could afford his maximum salary, the most Bosh could sign for is $96,099,667 over five years, broken down like this: 2010/11 = $16,568,908 (his maximum salary, based on 105% of his previous salary) 2011/12 = $17,894,421 2012/13 = $19,219,933 2013/14 = $20,545,446 2014/15 = $21,870,959 However, if he was able to get Toronto to agree to the sign and trade, Bosh's maximum salary changes. With 10.5% maximum non-compounded annual compensation increases rather than 8%, and with a sixth year now possible, Bosh can now earn $125,509,478, broken down as follows: 2010/11 = $16,568,908 2011/12 = $18,308,643 2012/13 = $20,048,379 2013/14 = $21,788,114 2014/15 = $23,527,849 2015/16 = $25,267,585 That is, as-near-as-makes-no-difference, $30 million more. It's a significant chunk of change, no matter how much we hope that being in the right situation would make him willing to overlook it. And apparently he is adamant about needing that. Broussard cites Bosh's reasons for that demand as being due to his belief that he will not command the off-court money that his peers LeBron James and Dwyane Wade can do. [Incidentally, maximum salary figures for Wade and James are exactly the same.] Bosh is not the bankable star that those two are, not because of the Toronto market he's been in, but because he's not as talented, nor as flair-acious, nor as personable. And nor is he as good. His abilities are, of course, hugely significant. That is why we are here discussing his potential maximum salary. Yet despite that, Bosh is not worth a six year maximum deal. He is not even worth a five year maximum deal. He is an elite player who made significant improvements last season - a cynic might point out that it was a contract year - scoring more than ever, more efficiently than ever, and with a career best rebounding rate. But he's normally a below-average rebounder, inconsistent and timid defender, who doesn't want to take the tough defensive matchups and who isn't very good at it when he does. His offensive skill and versatility is only bettered in the NBA today by Dirk Nowitzki, but if you buy Bosh, you're buying a solution for half of the game only. As such a fear of overpaying him (and for him) can be entirely valid. Yet the question is paramount; forgetting for a moment what the Raptors would want and need in the sign-and-trade, and the realistic amount of basketball assets that the Bulls would be willing to give Toronto to get him, do you give the $125 million to him anyway if it's the only way to get him? Yep, probably. There are more buyers in this auction than there are lots, and as such, the Bulls are going to have to overpay to get someone. If they're going to overpay someone, I'd rather they overpay the best of the bunch. And the best of the big man bunch available this year is Chris Bosh. If obtaining him means that he gets $25 million to do $13 million's worth of work when he's 32 years old at the end of the deal, so be it. http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chi...y-doesnt-want-to-give-up-that-sixth-year.html
Good breakdown of the numbers. But I disagree in that I believe Bosh is a solid defender. Sure, he's not going to be making All-Defense teams, but with Yao at center he wouldnt be asked to carry the load as he did in Toronto. Plus, if we are playing a superstud PF, that's what we have Chuck Hayes for. Overall, I believe Bosh is one of the best players in the league. And without a doubt would help our team win a title more than anything else we could do with all that money
He's worth 125m, probably a bit more, Lebron for example is worth probably 250-300m over 6, but the salary cap keeps that down to 125ish.
One thing to remember with Bosh is that it was him and Bargnani down low...Bosh had to not only defend the opposing teams best big man, but he also had to try to cover for Bargnani's defensive limitations. Thats a tough job. Im not saying Bosh is going to be a great defender, but I feel that being paired up with some better defensive help, he can definitely be more than adequate.
Bosh is at least equal to Pau and nobody blinked at Pau's extension. If you are a luxury tax paying contender, better to make Bosh your 2nd or 3rd option at that price than pay a bunch of role players.
Bosh is indeed a good player but he doesn't solve all of our problems and even with him and Yao Ming down low, it still would not put us over the top. I does sound good to give Bosh that 125 million dollar contract now but it will come back and bite us a couple of years down the line when he's declining and the Rockets cannot acquire a good player because his salary ate up most of the cap. Nowadays, all NBA stars believe that they're max contract worthy but the truth is, they're not. There are only a few players in the league that deserves a max and that's Lebron, Wade, Durant, Kobe, etc. Teams are just scrambling to find a good player and throw the max at them. The Nba isn't what it used to be anymore. Now players are worry more about how much money they can make other than winning. To me, Bosh doesn't seem like he cares much about going to a winning team. He cares more about what team he can go to that will help him make as much money as he possibly can. He wants a SnT to a team with the biggest market so he can make more money other than his salary. To me, a star player who cares more about how much more he can make other than winning don't deserve to be on the Rockets. For example, Bosh is attracting all the media attention and film crew on his free agency. I feel like he's doing that just for the attention of fame. Michael Jordan wasn't like that. MJ was strictly about basketball and business, not about the attention of the media. So honestly, I really questioned Bosh's heart and desire to win because I really believe his main desire is fame and money.
The way I see it, you're not a franchise player unless, by yourself, you make your teams win - at least contenders to make the first round. You need to be good enough to be the sun that the rest of the rosters orbits around. Bosh is a step or two under that, like Jermaine O'Neal, like Pau Gasol, like Chris Webber (Kevin Martin, too). All these guys need a second All Star to win, which in my book makes them top shelf second bananas....and should be paid as such. IMO, "true" value for Bosh would be a 5 year deal starting at $15M $15M $16M $17.5M $18.9M $20.4M I wouldn't cut myself if we signed him at the full max, but he'd be pricey and we need to be aware of the ramifications of that contract in the not-so-distant Yao Ming-less future. Are we strong contenders with Bosh and Martin accounting for half the salary cap? Or are we an "almost good" annual 45-win team behind them? Evan
What about Garnett? After Cassell and Sprewell left, the timberwolves went to the lottery. What about Pierce? The Celtics were in the lottery 5 times.
The Garnett-only Wolves made the playoffs 7 straight times with him. I'd say he made them contenders to make the playoffs despite a subpar supporting cast. They also made the playoffs 4 times and got to the Conference Finals once. At the same time, if you were picking guys from this era in their prime to lead your franchise, Pierce isn't going to be at the top of the list. In no way shape or form am I suggesting these guys are overrated losers - I'm saying this league has a bad habit of overpaying folks that need to be getting second tier money. Hell, it's like jumpers - this is a league that's either layups or 3 pointers. No one bothers with 16-footers. It was only a few years back when Bibby was holding out for the max from the Kings. Mike Bibby. Amare wants the full max and he clearly isn't going to take NY anywhere but the lottery. You can just hand out these contracts like asprin. You'll go a lot further building a roster like Morey has and bidding your time for a bonafide franchise guy (they are few and far between). Evan
