AB good Landry good scola good barry fail francis fail dorsey epic fail von good artest good taylor inc/fail so far lull inc chase inc/good danderson inc/fail so far lowry good 6 good 3 bad 4inc or 7good 5bad 1inc. But what makes morey such a good gm is his failure always are low cost where his good deals provides a lot of upside.
How can you even grade these players.... taylor inc/fail so far lull inc chase inc/good danderson inc/fail so far It takes 3 years to even begin to see how some of these guys will actually turn out and for guards it could take up to 5 years...
you don't grade GMs like that, one KG trade wipes out ten Gerald Green busts. One Gasol trade wipes out ten Brian Cooks.
I'd agree and add that the value that a Budinger carries is extremely higher then the signings of Barry/Francis/Dorsey. All his fails have been so low risk while his hits have been such a huge reward that the scale is unbalanced in his favor. Considering this team is full of late 1/2nd rd/undrafted high reward guys it has made the loss of 40 million dollars not crippling.
How does Dorsey, a 2nd round pick, not playing well be regarded as "epic fail"? It's like calling missing half court buzzer beater "epic fail."
its impossible really, to quantify all of his moves because we only know about the ones which he made. i would say turning down a bad trade is a good move. wouldn't you? when the suns asked too much for amare, DM passed and that was a good move. for contrast, CD gutted the whole team to get barkley. i'm sure there are countless other scenarios like this, that other GM's might have gone for which DM wisely turned down.
The only really bad move I see is the Barry signing. He was washed up and I think we had to buy him out. Dorsey is not really a bad move, just a second round pick that hasn't panned out . It's pretty common for second round picks to fail, just not for Morey! AB is a good pick, Scola and Landry are both EXCELLENT picks. The Lowry trade was great: it let AB start, got rid of Rafer, and got us Lowry. Masterful. Artest was good for what it got us, even if it was just a one-year rental. We don't win against Portland last year without Artest and it was a huge lift for us to finally win a playoff series. Taylor is an unknown, though Budinger looks promising.
Agreed. Even when you get to the late first round, if you find a player who manages to last in the league as a 12th - 15th guy then you've done well. It blows my mind that there are people here who are ready to say that Morey has made some bad draft picks. His ability to draft so far has been FREAKISHLY amazing. When we drafted Aaron Brooks, I was hoping for the kind of production Earl Boykins gave the Nuggets. Instead, in year 3, he's looking like a borderline All-Star (and yes, I know there is no way he's making the All-Star team behind guys like Chris Paul, Deron Williams and Steve Nash). When we drafted Landry, I was hoping for a decent back up - instead we're looking at a guy who could contend for 6th man of the year award this season. When he traded VSpan for Scola, I was hoping for a quality back up. Instead? A walking double double. As for Brent Barry - I don't think that was even a failure. I imagine that his production is about what Morey expected - but you hope for more. The same thing with Francis. It was obvious the team never counted on Francis returning to form - but if he had, it would have been a real coup. In the meantime, the Chronicle got to write some articles about a fan favorite returning to the Rockets. It was basically a PR move. The Lowry trade was absolutely brilliant too. In short, Morey managed to upgrade our point guard depth while lowering our salary. Not an easy thing to pull off. I think we can already grade the Budinger pick too. He was picked 44th, which means if he can contribute in practice, the pick was an overwhelming success. Instead, we got a guy who could very well put up 15/3/3 this year. That's not a draft steal - it's a draft miracle performed by my own personal Jesus. And in so far as Andersen goes, it blows my mind people are down on him. There are several factors it seems like everybody is forgetting: 1. How Scola looked this far into his first season with us. 2. How difficult it is to sign a 7 footer who is good at ANYTHING for the money we're paying Andersen. Andersen is at least proving to be a pretty excellent offensive center and I'm looking forward to seeing how he fits the team once Yao has returned. I expect his team defense will improve too - he seems a smart player. Dorsey is definitely bad. But he was a second round pick. A great deal of first round picks don't last more than 2-3 years in the NBA. I certainly can't cry over a 2nd round pick not panning out. As for Taylor and Lull - that's yet to be determined. But again, with 2nd round picks you don't have much to lose.
Taylor too early to tell Francis and Barry, low risk too significant to count. And Barry played well in stretches for us. You can't expect Morey's 2nd round picks to be all gold. AB(close to a 2nd), Landry, Chase, 3 out of 4 picks are good, that is an epic win in my book.
Morey's approach is all about low risk/high reward. That's what makes him a great GM, in my opinion. But in the long term, is low risk/high reward enough? Will it get us a ring? Or will DM have to step up and make a riskier move to put us over the top? Things will get interesting over the next year or two.
