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Government literally censors Scooby Doo, Bewitched, others

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by GreenVegan76, Feb 11, 2004.

  1. GreenVegan76

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    Only three letters are needed here:

    W, T and F.


    Censor 'Scooby-Doo'? Words fail

    By Dan Moffett, Palm Beach Post Editorial Writer
    Sunday, February 8, 2004

    The Bush administration has decided that people with bad hearing have bad judgment, too, and need special guidance from the federal government.

    So the U.S. Department of Education is declaring about 200 television programs inappropriate for closed-captioning and denying federal grant requests to make them accessible to the hearing-impaired.

    The department made its decisions based on the recommendations of a five-member panel. Who the five members are, only the government seems to know, and it isn't saying. But the shows they censored suggest a perspective that is Talibanesque.

    The government is refusing to caption Bewitched and I Dream of Jeannie, apparently fearing that the deaf would fall prey to witchcraft if they viewed the classic sitcoms.

    Your government also believes that Law & Order is too intense for the hard-of-hearing. So is Power Rangers. You can rest easy knowing that your federal tax dollars aren't being spent to promote Sanford and Son, Judge Wapner's Animal Court and The Loretta Young Show within the deaf community. Kids with hearing problems can forget about watching Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, classic cartoons or Nickelodeon features. Even Roy Rogers and Robin Hood are out.

    Sports programming took a heavy hit, too. The government has decided that people with hearing problems don't need to watch NASCAR, Major League Baseball, the National Basketball Association, the National Football League or Professional Golf Association tournaments.

    The National Association of the Deaf says the government used to caption these shows but abruptly changed course, deciding that the shows don't fit the required definition of "educational, news or informational" programming.

    "They've suddenly narrowed down the definition of those three kinds of programming without public input," says Kelby Brick, director of the NAD's law and advocacy center. "Basically, the department wants to limit captioning to puritan shows. The department wants to ensure that deaf and hard-of-hearing individuals are not exposed to any non-puritan programming. Never mind that the rest of the country is allowed to be exposed."

    How imperiled the nation might be if The Simpsons and Malcolm in the Middle reached into the living rooms of the impressionable hard-of-hearing. Or, for that matter, Scooby-Doo.

    The censorship raises baffling questions about who gets in and who's left out. The government has rejected Nancy Drew but is accepting Andy Hardy. Cory the Clown has won approval, but the Cisco Kid is toast. Charlie Rose and Rod Serling are worthy of captions, but Catherine Crier and Dominick Dunne aren't. Go figure.

    The Department of Education is refusing to reveal the names of the panel members whose opinions determined the caption grants and also won't disclose the new guidelines. By every appearance, the government has changed its definition of what constitutes a caption-worthy program. But it's keeping the new rules secret.

    "They apparently used a panel of five individuals and then made the censorship decisions based on the individuals' recommendations," Mr. Brick says. "We have found the identity of one of the panelists. This individual tells us that he never knew he was on such a panel and that his views would be used for censorship. No panel was convened. The five panelists were contacted individually and separately."

    It could be that people with bad hearing are new casualties of the Bush administration's budget priorities. Paying the Halliburton bills and sending a man to Mars will be costly, perhaps equally so. It could be that missing Bewitched and Law & Order is just one sacrifice the deaf will have to make to advance homeland security and fight terrorism.

    The education department makes promises about "No Child Left Behind," but it didn't say anything about leaving behind people with bad hearing. Maybe they should have seen this coming.

    The NAD is lobbying Congress to change the policy. Some networks and sponsors are stepping in and providing captions for some of the "inappropriate" shows. But the government's dismissive treatment of 28 million Americans defies words.

    "We are outraged the department has taken paternalistic steps to exclude deaf and hard-of-hearing individuals," Mr. Brick says. "Such censorship is offensive and insulting."http://www.palmbeachpost.com/opinion/content/auto/epaper/editions/sunday/opinion_0442326e064c624b0099.html
     
  2. mc mark

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    Thank Godness I still have harry Potter!
     
  3. AMS

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    How Freaking Retarted is this... I agreee. WTF

    I mean Come on... Ninja Turtles are classic
     
  4. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    Seems like an easy way to save a little cash to me. The government is not preventing the shows from being captioned, just not paying for it.
     
  5. Deckard

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    Oh, please. If you're going to make that argument, then just say they shouldn't pay for captioning for deaf people at all. Or else just say you're for censorship and be up front about it.

    Just keep doing this BS, Bush, and I'll be waving "bye-bye" soon enough. And Bush is responsible for the actions of his Administration. Truman said it best, "The buck stops here".
     
  6. bamaslammer

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    Thank you for adding some rationality to the debate. The govt. shouldn't be paying for that anyhow.
     
  7. Oski2005

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    When will deaf people learn then need to take care of themselves? I'm tired of those deaf leeches taking less than a penny from each taxpayer.
     
  8. bamaslammer

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    Everyone has their hand out and it's not just them.
     
  9. Chump

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    absolutely, they need to take responsibility

    Go to school to learn to lip-read ya lazy bums!

    Seriously though, this is just another classic example of the small ways the Bush Administration uses censorship and propaganda to excert their religious views into their policy.

    They remove safe sex information from government web sites and subsitute it with only talk of absenece. They've removed information about the lack of evidence linking abortion to breat cancer.

    Now they are afraid children might become witches from watching Bewitched. I mean how paranoid do you have to be?

    They don't trust you to make your own decisions about your own life.

    I understand this is small and I am not in total disagreement on it. I just disagree with the implentation of it. If the government is going to pay for CC, education and news should be it. Let the companies that produce the shows pay to CC them. It is just like any other thing an organization would have to do to try to gain a competitive advantage. But for the administration to sweep down and change the policy overnight, without input isn't right. This apparently has been the policy for a long time if they are CC'ing Ninja Turtles.
     
  10. mrpaige

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    Sadly, that's true of a lot of people (seemingly most people) when they achieve positions of power, from the various Presidential Administrations down to your Homeowner's Association Board.
     
  11. nyquil82

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    good, i hope the next thing they can do is get rid of all those damn wheelchair ramps. it take me, like, an extra three steps to walk around the damn things. and don't get me started on handicapped spaces and braille in elevators...
    besides, if you need the government to help you out, you are most likely a poor democrat. why should us rich republicans help those poor saps out?
     
  12. IROC it

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    Exactly. This is not censorship, it's just leaving an opportunity for what I ALWAYS heard as a child...

    "Close Captioning is SPONSORED BY (insert company or corporation here)."

    You people gripe at Bush for spending too much money, but then gripe when the private sector might get a tax right-off for being charitable.

    This article, please realize, is an opinionated spin. When did we stop looking at things for ourselves?

    All I have to say further is, "DUH!"

    :rolleyes:
     
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  13. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    They shouldn't pay for captioning for deaf people at all, with the exception of news and educational programs. I hardly think Bewitched qualifies.
     
  14. Refman

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    This isn't a hand out. Nobosy is pouring money into the deaf's hands. In a society with an ever-increasing dependence upon media, access becomes an important issue.

    Since I was fortunate enough to not be a deaf child, I have no idea what it is like. I can tell you this though...no individual has enough money to closed caption TV shows. If they aren't captioned, no technology money can buy will help them.

    If you want to debate wellfare or entitlements, we'd likely agree quite a bit. Picking on the deaf stating that they want a hand out because they don't want funding wrenched away from captioning is ludicrous.

    Really bad argument.
     
  15. FranchiseBlade

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    The way I see it whether or not closed captioning should be funded is a different argument.

    It seems the government has decided to fund it, but the problems arises when they then also try to decide what programs will receive the funding.

    The should give the money to fund it, and let those who know better than them decide what gets closed captioning.
     
  16. bamaslammer

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    But where is it stated that the govt., through forced taxation, has the right to fund programs for the deaf that should be financed from charitable donations. I would have no problem donating money to such a cause, but to have it forcibly removed from my paycheck is just unconscienable.
     
  17. Refman

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    There is this spending provision in the Constitution giving the government the right to fund programs for the "health, safety and welfare" of the populace. The "welfare" portion of this has come to be read as enhancements to the quality of life.

    Alternatively, the government took a burden upon itself when it chose to exercise ownership of the airwaves when the FCC was created. You take the power, you take the burdens that come with it.

    With all the things the government funds, THIS is what you choose to call unconscienable? It is this kind of backwards thinking that causes me to feel very sad for the future of the Republican party (which I associate myself with).
     
  18. Oski2005

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    You don't have to worry that much Ref, he's a Libertarian.
     
  19. Refman

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    That explains a lot. Extreme Libertarians don't want government to do anything...including operate.
     
  20. Batman Jones

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    Actually bama doesn't quite believe the government shouldn't do anything. He belongs to a weird sect of Libertarians that believes the deaf should fend for themselves but the government should make sure gays don't marry.
     

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