There are enough Bush people here to get a chuckle, and enough Gore people to cause at least one nasty retort. Al Gore and His Lies: FICTION: Al Gore recently claimed that his mother-in-law pays more than $100.00 for the arthritis medicine Lodine; and he claims that his dog takes the same medicine for $37.00, claiming "This is wrong!" FACT: Gore's aides were quick to apologize for Gore's lie, saying the information was from a Democratic study. Washington newspapers also reported that Al Gore wasn't even sure his mother-in-law was taking any medication and wasn't even sure she had arthritis. And, he doesn't know anything about his dog's "arthritis". FICTION: Al Gore said his father, a senator, was a champion of civil rights during the 1960's. FACT: Gore's father voted against the landmark Civil Rights Act of 1964 and was a racist who was fond of using the "N" word. FICTION: Al Gore said that his sister was the very first person to join the Peace Corps. FACT: By the time Gore's sister joined the Peace Corps, there were already over 100 members. FICTION: The same sister died of lung cancer years later and Gore vowed to never accept tobacco money as campaign contributions. FACT: Just four years later, while campaigning for office, Gore spoke to the tobacco industry and said he was one of them because "I've planted it, raised it, cut it, and dried it." He raised over $100,000 in "reported" contributions. FICTION: While running for office, Gore's campaign literature claimed he was a "Brilliant Student". FACT: Washington newspapers said he barely passed Harvard and consistently earned D's and C's. FICTION: Gore claims an extensive knowledge of law as a result of his extensive study at law school. FACT: Al Gore dropped out of law school. FICTION: Gore claimed that his knowledge of God and spirituality came to complete fruition while "finishing" divinity school. FACT: Al Gore dropped out of divinity school. FICTION: Al Gore claimed responsibility for inventing the Internet in the 1990's. FACT : Shocked scientists were quick to speak out, explaining that the Internet had been in widespread use by government and educational institutions since the early 1970's. FICTION: Al Gore claimed the book "Love Story" was based on his life and Tipper's. FACT: Author Erich Segal called a press conference to deny his claim. (Couldn't he at least lie about a love story where his sweetheart doesn't die?" FICTION : Gore claimed that as a reporter for a Nashville newspaper, his stories led to the arrests of numerous corrupt criminals. FACT: He later apologized for his claim and actually said it was untrue (Also known as lying). FICTION: Gore claims to increase diversity in the staff that follows him daily, especially among blacks. FACT: Black members of the Secret Service are suing because they claim they are not being promoted to positions guarding the Vice-President. FICTION: Al Gore said he was the first to discover the Love Canal nuclear accident. FACT: The incident was already discovered, being investigated, and covered widely in the press for many months before Gore was aware of it. FICTION: Gore said just recently that if elected president, he would put harsh sanctions on the sleazy producers of Hollywood's extreme sex and violence. FACT: Just six days later, Gore attended a fundraiser by Hollywood producers and radical gay activists where he told them that he would only pretend to "nudge them" if elected. He raised over $4 million. FICTION: Al Gore said he built his Tennessee home with his bare hands. FACT : Totally false! FICTION: Al Gore says parents should not have a choice between private and public schools because public schools are far better. TRUTH : Al Gore attended private school and he has sent his children to private schools. FICTION: Al Gore remembers his mother lulling him to sleep as a baby by singing the popular ditty, "Look For The Union Label". FACT: The popular ditty was created by the unions when Gore was 27 years old. FICTION: Al Gore claimed to co-sponsor the McCain-Feingold Campaign Reform Act. FACT: The Act was not sponsored until he had been out of office for over a year. FICTION: Al Gore claims to be instrumental in keeping gas prices low. FACT: Gore has voted on numerous occasions to raise the tax on gasoline. In his book "Earth In The Balance" Gore claims that the nation's Number One enemy is the internal combustion engine. (That's the motor in your vehicle that gets you to work and takes your kids to school) FICTION: Gore pretends to champion the rights of poor women to be tested regularly for breast cancer with the most modern technology. FACT: While giving a speech on the subject in September, Gore didn't know what a mammogram was. FICTION: AL Gore promised Florida's senior citizens that they would finally have low-cost drugs with no interference from government. FACT: Gore's plan calls for the creation of a huge federal agency that would tell you which doctor you are allowed to see in order to get the "special rates". FACT: Al Gore told NBC's Lisa Meyers that he had never told a lie. When Meyers pressed harder, "You've never told a lie?!" Gore said, "Not that I know of." (SOUND FAMILIAR?)
What do "radical gay activists" have to do with Hollywood and I doubt he would be stupid enough to say he would pretend to nudge them. Your source is obviously quite biased, or you would have listed it.
Ease on down brother,man. I was quoting all of the above from an internet news bulletin that was sent to my office email this AM. I take no authorship, nor do I even claim to be a Bush supporter or a Gore basher. Just thought I would stir some political reaction. Never thought for a minute it would bring the "fair speech for all, except them" politically-correct speech police element out of the woodwork. If the author (I lost the top of the email, or I would have inserted same) was here in front of me, I would be whipping him with indignant disgust for you. As it is, I apologize if it appeared to be gay bashing. Now amy the Gore versus Bush bashers compete.
An artical that looks remarkably similar to this "internet news bulletin" is currently running on the National Review Website. The site bills itself as "America's Premier Conservative Website." No bias there, I'm sure.
I wish this election would hurry up and end so we can get this over with. Sometimes it feels like Republicans will vote for the Republican and the Democrats will vote for the democrats. During my high school years, I worked for the Gallup Poll and it seems like this is the case. I know this is off topic, but the unsure voters are going to make a big difference on what the turnout is. I think the unsure voters are giving Bush an advantage right now. In all honesty, I wish Clinton could stay in office. Gore is being too soft in the debates and it is costing him. I do believe Bush could be a decent leader. But I disagree with him on the environment, the death penalty, and the tax cut for the wealthy. It's hard for me to believe any politician is trustworthy. I hope after the next debate and a little bit of research, I will be able to vote for the best candidate. ------------------
Um, what tax cut for the wealthy? You mean the tax cut that also involves the wealthy? From everything I've heard and read, Bush's tax cuts would help me, and I don't really consider myself wealthy. If I am, I guess I should move out of this apartment and trade my '91 chevy S-10 for something a little more up to date and stylish. ------------------
From what I have heard, the wealthiest of the wealthy will benefit the most from Bush's proposed tax cut. ------------------
Neither Gore nor Bush will impact the fiscal policies (income, SS taxes, overall governmental spending) of the federal government much if at all. A vocal minority in congress would stall anything radical proposed by either party, even if either party controls both the legislative and executive branches. This (not much) also happened in 1992-94 when Clinton had the presidency and the Demos had congress. Where this election might have a great impact is with appointing supreme court justices. So what you think about abortion, civil rights and individual liberties in my mind should drive your vote, not how it will impact your wallet. The only major exception might be if your family may inherit an estate worth over 1.3 mil, where Bush would like to and probably could get rid of all estate taxes.
Gore will say anything to obtain power. Here is further evidence just uncovered- GORE SAID HOMOSEXUALITY 'ABNORMAL' AND 'WRONG'; VOWED NOT TO TAKE MONEY FROM GAY GROUPS Presidential hopeful Al Gore once declared that homosexuality is an abnormal lifestyle and vowed not to accept campaign funds from gay groups, the DRUDGE REPORT can reveal. In 1981, Gore decried homosexuality during a town meeting, according to eyewitnesses and press accounts of the session. When one participant asked Gore about homosexuality -- which the man described as a "sin" -- Gore responded that homosexuality is an abnormality which should be discouraged. "I think it is wrong," Gore explained to the audience. "It is not just another normal optional lifestyle." During his senate race three years later, Gore said he would not accept campaign funds from homosexual groups, the TENNESSEAN reported on October 28, 1984. "I do not believe it is simply an acceptable alternative that society should affirm," Gore explained to a reporter. [The press clippings quoting Gore on homosexulaity were first discovered in a local library in Tennessee. Library clerks later hid the papers in back rooms, claiming they were destroyed.] The comments sharply conflict with Gore's current statements on homosexuality. Earlier this year, Gore declared: "The time has come to widen the circle of fairness and dignity to include our brothers, sisters, friends, and neighbors in the gay and lesbian community. And if you entrust me with Presidency, I will fight for the basic fairness and opportunity you deserve." But in 1988, Gore considered taking steps to prevent homosexual activists from using his delegate slate in the Georgia presidential primary to win seats at the Democratic National Convention. Homosexual activists won positions on the Gore slate during two Georgia congressional district caucuses that year. "We did not know that that was going to take place," Gore told the CHATTANOOGA TIMES AND FREE PRESS on February 3, 1988. "We are examining the situation now to see what the options are... we want delegates who are loyal to my candidacy and who will not pursue another agenda." "This is outrageous!" a senior Gore insider said this weekend from Nashville. "Are you sure the vice president said that? Could you fax me the newspaper stories. I just can't believe he would say those things." After viewing the press clippings, the well-placed campaign insider agreed to comment on the record only on condition of anonymity. "Listen, Drudge. I am gay, and this does not sound like the man I know, the man I have seen in action," said the stunned source. "I am not going to sit here and excuse what he said back in the 80s, but he sure is standing up for gays and lesbians in this country right now. Look, he was running for office from a conservative southern state, maybe he had to say those things to get elected. I am sure he did not mean them." When pressed if Gore could actually be tailoring his beliefs on homosexuality during the current campaign to win favor with the donation-rich gay community, the source laughed and said: "Vice President Gore is no Dr. Laura! He does not think I am 'deviant.'" "I'm going to lay it on the line.. The next president of the United States has to be someone who the American people can believe will stay with his convictions." -- Al Gore, 1988 Democratic Presidential Debate, 2/18/88. ----------------------------------------------------------- Filed by Matt Drudge Reports are moved when circumstances warrant http://www.drudgereport.com for updates (c)DRUDGE REPORT 2000 Not for reproduction without permission of the author ------------------ http://home.swbell.net/rkb3/hr.html = Live Rockets Chat
Ah, this is more like it! rascal wrote: " ... An article that looks remarkably similar to this "internet news bulletin" is currently running on the National Review Website. The site bills itself as "America's Premier Conservative Website." No bias there, I'm sure. Two things: 1. Bias is nothing new in a political atmosphere. To be more clear, I definitely did not (nor could I have, had I wanted to) hide the obvious bias in this article when I posted it to stimulate this thread. 2. What's an obviously biased liberal -leaner like you reading a national newsgroup's conservative views? LOL rock wrote: " ... I know this is off topic, but the unsure voters are going to make a big difference on what the turnout is... " I. It's not off topic. It is right on, as a matter of fact. 2.The unsure vote which comprises anyone who has not declared a political affiliation on a voter registration card comprise the majority of ALL voters in this country. 3. In a country that prides itself on a democratic forethought and driven by a government that is for and by the people, we only have a bare minimum of voter turnout. The last election that had a voter participation of over fifty percent ( 53% I think) was eight years ago. And the number of times that has happened (over a fifty percent turnout) in my long lifeanyway, can be counted on one of my hands. " ... I do believe Bush could be a decent leader ..." I would settle for that. I do not want a waffling politician in there who says whatever he wants one day (or week,month) and then has a complete reversal simply because it is politically inconvenient to say that now. Everytime someone says, well Al you said this or voted for that when it came up before, what has changed? he waffles, and falls all over himself. And god help us if he is asked a follow up, we would be trying to characterize him as a bad guy. In short he has been an active VP and has already had an opportunity to do something for eight years, and has largely failed. I mean if he is going to take credit for some of these things, then take credit for a failing national energy plan, a failing health care platform, a failing national education focus, a failing drug policy .... I would have alot more respect for him if he accepted some of the shortfalls and stuck to his prior committments. But, man, he is a typical Washington political waffler. " ... From what I have heard, the wealthiest of the wealthy will benefit the most from Bush's proposed tax cut ..." That is exactly correct. If I paid $5000 into income tax, and I am going to get a refund of $2200 why should I begrudge the guy who pays $10,000 in income tax getting $3100? The Bush plan calls for a graduated tax cut for ALL tax payers. The ones who don't pay taxes do not get a tax refund. The one's who pay the most taxes (the top percentage) get the most in dollars back in tax relief. BUT, they do not get the same percentage back. I will get back approximately 50% returned under the new plan. Those that pay the highest get far less in percentage, somewhere in the 22% to 30% range. To me that is fair. Cheers.
As a rebuttal to the original post in this thread, I will give a Democratic standpoint just to even out whatever Republican bias there was. The "rhetoric" contains some original quotes from Bush. This is found at <a href="http://www.algore.com">algore.com</a> RHETORIC: "[Discussing the Balkans] I think it ought to be one of our priorities to work with our European friends to convince them to put troops on the ground." REALITY: The Europeans are on the ground in the Balkans. RHETORIC: "I thought the president made the right decision in joining NATO and bombing Serbia. I supported him when they did so." REALITY: Bush Commented on Kosovo After Rivals Did. RHETORIC: "There's a lot of talk about trigger locks being on guns sold in the future. I support that." REALITY: Bush Waffled on Trigger Locks. RHETORIC: "Africa is important and we've got to do a lot of work in Africa to promote democracy and trade." REALITY: Bush Has Ignored Africa. RHETORIC: "I think a lot of times we just spend aid, say we feel better about it and it ends up being spent the wrong way. And there's some pretty egregious examples, like Russia where we had loans that end up in the pockets of powerful people and didn't help the nation." REALITY: Al Gore Has Helped Protect Americans from Nuclear Weapons, and Promote Economic and Political Reform. RHETORIC: "I wouldn't have sent troops to Haiti. I didn't think it was a mission worthwhile. It was a nation-building mission and it wasn't very successful. It cost us billions, a couple billion dollars and I'm not so sure democracy is any better off in Haiti than it was before. REALITY: James Baker, President Bush's Secretary of State, considered the restoration of democracy in Haiti in the U.S. national interest. RHETORIC: "The coalition against Saddam has fallen apart -- or it's unraveling, let's put it that way." REALITY: The Administration Has Contained Saddam and Worked to See Him Out of Power. RHETORIC: Moderator: "You feel that [Saddam] is a failure of the Clinton Administration?" Mr. Bush: "I do." REALITY: Dick Cheney Was Part of the Decision to Let Saddam "Off the Hook" At the End of the Gulf War, According to President Bush. RHETORIC: Moderator: "On hate crimes laws?" Mr. Bush: "Got one in Texas." REALITY: Bush Refused to Support Hate Crimes Legislation. RHETORIC: "And the three men murdered James Byrd, guess what's going to happen to them? They're going to be put to death." REALITY: Only 2 of 3 Received the Death Penalty. RHETORIC: Bush said his health insurance plan will help those most in need REALITY: Bush's Proposal Would Not Be Affordable for Those Most In Need. RHETORIC: Bush said his health insurance plan will help those most in need REALITY: Bush's Plan Could Force More People Off of Health Insurance, Bush Plan Is "Really Not Affordable" For Anyone Making Less Than $40,000 RHETORIC: "We need to make sure that if we do control our plants that there's mandatory -- that the plants must conform to clean air standards, the grandfather plants that's what we did in Texas, no excuses. You must conform." REALITY: Mandatory Reduction Bill Only Applies to Certain Plants. RHETORIC: Gore and the Administration Have Failed on Health Care. REALITY: Gore and the Administration Have Overseen Improvements in Health Care Coverage. America is healthier than it was eight years ago. RHETORIC: Providing Health Care to All Americans is a Priority of His… REALITY: That Health Care Has Never Been a Priority of His, 2 Speeches in 6 Years as Governor… RHETORIC: "We've signed up over 110,000 children in the CHIPS program for comparable states our size, we're signing them up as fast as any other state." REALITY: The State of Children in Texas Needs Improvement… ------------------ [This message has been edited by rock (edited October 16, 2000).] [This message has been edited by rock (edited October 16, 2000).] [This message has been edited by rock (edited October 16, 2000).]
Vote Nader! http://votenader.org I'm just waiting for the first Internet candidate. You know, the one who doesn’t raise a penny of soft money and runs an entire campaign over the Internet. ------------------ 'Deeds, not words, shall speak me.'
I know that I will eventually educate myself more adequately concerning politics. But reading this thread helps me understand the disillusionment many feel towards the system. ------------------ There are 3 kinds of lies: lies, lies, and heypeeisms. -DrofDunkingDonuts
The funny thing is that no matter who wins out of Bush and Gore, nothing changes. The only real elections that make a difference are the small local one's that get almost no attention - school boards, water board, city council, judges, etc. What a shame. ------------------ Save Our Rockets and Comets SaveOurRockets.com
as someone said, the real race is about the Supreme Court. the fact that Bush idolizes Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas scares the hell out of me. P.S. Desert Scar...Gore wants to raise the estate tax qualifier to 5 million. [This message has been edited by outlaw (edited October 17, 2000).]
Jeff, I know what you are saying, and to some extent I believe that the real power lies in the staff and the local employees, but they still follow the lead and direction of our president. Leadership sets the tone for the whole country. With a poor leader the staff will use their power. With a strong leader they reflect that leadership. I think integration would be a strong example of how important leadership can be. It was made to happen. Nobody wanted it, but it was made to happen. The Election matters. It's critical people. You may want to argue that Gore and Budh would be poor leaders, but that doesn't fly, because I honestly believe that once elected you almost become a different person. Not policy wise, but in your expertise. You suddenly have privy information that could change your leadership skills. ------------------ humble, but hungry.
" ... the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself ..." - Xunzi Hsun-tse (Sun Tzu) "The Art Of War"
Actually Rascal, its " If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles." Sun Tzu Anyone see the part tonight about Hollywood censorship??? Gore said something like if he were elected, he would crack down on the evil Hollywood moguls, and censor the dirty things in America. HAHAHAHAHA!!!! ------------------ Starting at shortstop, for the Houston Astros, Nomar Garciaparra. or Starting at First Base, for the Boston Red Sox, Jeff Bagwell!!!
