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Good going Bush---CIA now believes Usama has fled the entire region by sea

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by gettinbranded, Jan 15, 2002.

  1. gettinbranded

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  2. treeman

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    He apparently crossed Iran (they let him cross), and left Bandar Abbas by ship. Presumably he will arrive on the other side of the Gulf, and either arrive in Yemen or Saudi via an overland route.

    He only has only so many options. All of them are traceable.

    We need to stop looking at our "allies" in the region as friends. He couldn't do this without them.

    He will be caught/killed. But if he's running, then he will leave a trail of destruction behind him. We will make it.

    You can't run forever with fire chasing your feet.
     
  3. RichRocket

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    Good going Bush? How idiotic.
     
  4. RocketMan Tex

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    Like I said before, it benefits President Bush and his war on terrorism to keep Usama Bin Laden alive and uncaptured for as long as possible.
     
  5. BlastOff

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    Intentionally allowing Usama to live for political reasons seems like a long shot to me because the minute al Qaeda pulls off something else in this country Bush and the CIA are toast.

    I believe the White House would rather see him DEAD than escape. In my opinion, one way or the other we will see him dead, as Treeman sorta suggests. There is no way he (Usama) will allow it otherwise.
     
  6. RichRocket

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    <b>RMTex</b>: Do you think that the American people are so naive that they need UBL alive to remember the horrors of 9/11?
    I'm not and I doubt you are either. I guess it is human nature to relax when the pressure seems off, but we know that the pressure from the Al Quaeda will never be "off" until they are food for worms.

    One way to catch UBL is to decimate his allies. Who will help him then? And he will be more easily found, although I expect he will be killed in some way or another first. He will keep his legend alive through his own martyrdom.
     
  7. cmrockfan

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    What the hell do you mean when you say "good going Bush"?

    Let me correct you-

    Great going President Bush! You have that b*stard on the run, just as you promised us. OBL can't coordinate his treachery when he is moving every night. We are safer because of your dedication, Mr. President.

    It is great to have somebody we can trust in the White House again.
     
  8. RocketMan Tex

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    No I do not think the American people are naive in any way. I do believe, however, that as long as Usama Bin Laden is alive and not captured, President Bush has carte blanche to attack any country he wants to, under the guise of "Bin Laden was spotted there". And I believe that is exactly what President Bush wants.
     
  9. RocketMan Tex

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    Maybe you can trust him, but I can't. He's a politician, and no politician is worthy of my trust. They are all slimy.
     
  10. boomboom

    boomboom I GOT '99 PROBLEMS

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    Let me correct you...OBL DID coordinate all of his plans while constantly moving around. He rarely stays in the same place for more than a few days and always has several different daily plans lined up, only choosing the one he will follow at the last minute. OBL is smart...he probably figured all of the events up until today into his plans. He will not stop just because he has to keep moving to stay alive. Remember...these fanatics are willing to die for what they believe in and I have a feeling that when the time comes, he will have no problem doing so either.

    One good thing we have on our side is OBL's health. As much as I hate the networks having more intelligence on the war than our government (seemingly), these guys seem to know intricate details about OBL and his failing health. I'm sure the stress of having the most powerful country on the planet chasing you down will not help things.

    As for OBL escaping through neighboring countries...unfortunately, the majority of countries in that region do not see him as we do. For a few bucks, I'm sure any border crossing guard will turn his head and let anyone into any country. Remember, most of the countries in that region despise the American government and would do anything to help someone who is fighting against it.
     
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    Generalizing about any group of people is always bad because your conclusions will always be wrong.
     
  12. cmrockfan

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    Sorry, but you are incorrect. OBL was not on the run before 9/11. His caravan of Range Rovers was often seen going in and out of Kandahar, and the Taliban made his life fairly comfortable. He had command and control centers, and terrorist camps to operate from.

    Now, he is forced to live on the move, cut off from the majority of his money. His communication network has been decimated, and there is no way that Al-Queda can ever again work as a cohesive team. In Western countries, his "cells" are on the run as well.

    Great going President Bush. Hold on to that NYPD badge in your pocket and never let it go. This war on terrorism is not ever going to end.
     
  13. BrianKagy

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    I blame Bush, too. It's his fault Bin Laden got away, just like the recession is his fault, and Enron's collapse is his fault, and the goddamned cold weather is his fault. Oh and I dropped a glass on the floor last night and it shattered-- goddamned Bush.

    That rat b*stard.
     
  14. RocketMan Tex

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    I would agree with you, if I believed that politicians were people.
     
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    boomboom I GOT '99 PROBLEMS

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    I do not want to bicker back and forth regarding OBL. This guy does not deserve the strength that it is taking me to type his name. BUT...he has been on the run for over five years now. As a suspect in the 1993 WTC bombing, he has had to keep an eye open at all times. In 1996, President Clinton signed an executive order that allowed the CIA to find him and his Al-Qaeda network and destroy them. In 98-99, the FBI placed OBL on its top ten most wanted list and offered a $5 million reward for his capture.

    There may have been sightings of 'his' caravans, but the guy is a ghost. I hope the President and the rest of America does not get duped into the belief that because he now has a HUGE target on his back means that the threat from him and Al-Qaeda is gone.

    Sound off over...have a nice day!!!:)

    (BTW, I hope we capture the guy alive and allow the relatives and friends of everyone's lives he has affected torture him. AND...I do think that Bush has done an exceptional job in handling this difficult situation. I just wish the government would keep the press out of the 'know' on certain things. These terrorists do not need to know any information regarding American military and intelligence, which is being made readily available by the press!)
     
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    with all our advanced technology, spy satellites that can photograph a license plate and we can't even keep track of this b*stard? maybe he'll show up at the white house front door with a bag of pretzels?

    rH
     
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    Gettinbranded,

    What exactly are you trying to imply here? You say "good going Bush" in your title and then only post a story from ABC's website. If you are blaming Bush, why not back it up? That is a ridiculous thing to imply...

    RMTex,

    Nobody in this administration has ever stated or implied that Bin Laden had been precisely located. Nobody ever suggested that this conflict would be another brief 'battle'. In fact, from the beginning, we have been told that this would be a sustained war; one that would not end until an end has been brought to terrorism...

    It's ignorant to imply that Bush is trying to keep Bin Laden and the war or terrorism alive "as long as possible" in order to benefit politically. You've got it backwards. No long term war ever benefits anyone politically unless it is won. People start becoming complacent and comfortable again, and don't 'see the need' in continuing the conflict. Capturing Bin Laden is a top priority. Although this article said so, this is not a major setback. Another Al Queda attack would be.

    What were you expecting? Another televised 'weekend battle' so that we could all get warm fuzzies and get back to our lives? That's exactly the mistakes of previous administrations that got us to where we are. We finally have some leaders who will do what it takes to protect us, instead of basing every decision on the latest polls... I say "well done, Bush".
     
  19. Rocketman95

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    Well, our army, led by Bush, couldn't find him, and now he may be out of the region. Who else should we blame it on, the 20 year old kid who just graduated high school?
     
  20. Major

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    <B>It's ignorant to imply that Bush is trying to keep Bin Laden and the war or terrorism alive "as long as possible" in order to benefit politically. You've got it backwards. No long term war ever benefits anyone politically unless it is won. People start becoming complacent and comfortable again, and don't 'see the need' in continuing the conflict. Capturing Bin Laden is a top priority. Although this article said so, this is not a major setback. Another Al Queda attack would be.
    </B>

    If you look at this strictly from what benefits Bush the most, then capturing bin Laden a month or two before the elections is his best-case scenario. He'd be reelected in a landslide. That said, I don't think he's purposely lost / let go OBL. However, if we do capture him right before election time, I will be suspicious. :)

    That said, the worst-case for Bush is another OBL-led terrorist attack. That will be looked at (rightly or wrongly) as a complete failure in the war on terror.

    <B>I blame Bush, too. It's his fault Bin Laden got away, just like the recession is his fault, and Enron's collapse is his fault, and the goddamned cold weather is his fault. Oh and I dropped a glass on the floor last night and it shattered-- goddamned Bush. </B>

    Is is a coincidence the world has gone to crap since he got elected?!? :eek: :)
     

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