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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by texanskan, Feb 5, 2008.

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  1. texanskan

    texanskan Member

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    take down that fake Romney and then on to the white house by beating down Hillary in the fall!

    John McCain, John McCain, John McCain!!!!!!!!!
     
  2. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Debate & Discussion
     
  3. texanskan

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    Ok, he will lock up the Gop spot tonight and if he goes up against Hillary it's a simple choice imo.

    You either want socialized health care that will cost us a small country and be less effective or you dont.

    You either want to make government huge or you want to cut the useless programs that don't work

    You are either for cleaning up the mess we got into in Iraq or pulling out right now and leaving things worse off than they were before
     
  4. danny317

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    did anyone hear what ann coulter said.

    she said that if mccain wins the republican nomination, not only would she vote for hillary, she would go out and campaign for hillary. :eek:

    she thinks mccain is more liberal than hillary. :eek:

    what is going on w/ the republican party? :confused:
     
  5. Harrisment

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    I LOVE it! Nothing makes me happier than hearing the republican blowhards like Coulter and Limbaugh pissing their pants at the prospect of McCain winning the nomination. If he wins I will actually consider voting Republican for the first time in my life, especially if he is against Hillary. Go McCain!
     
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    Not that we should be doing either, but staying in Iraq for 100 years will cost nearly as much as Hillary's healthcare plan. And McCain's only plan to get rid of a $407 Billion budget deficit is to cut $35 Billion in pork-barrel projects.

    There's only one candidate with any fiscal sense in this race, one that's talking about cutting $1 Trillion out of the budget, and now the media has completely tuned him out.
     
  8. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    not a huge of fan of paul's politics, but the deficit has to become a major issue to this country at some point.

    bush put out another huge deficit budget, the largest since his record in 04 and no one made a big deal about it.
     
  9. tbplayer22

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    No matter who wins the primaries and then the general election I doubt they will get anymore big government then this:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080204/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_budget
    Bush budget would bring record deficits

    By ANDREW TAYLOR, Associated Press Writer Mon Feb 4, 6:33 PM ET

    WASHINGTON - The record $3.1 trillion budget proposed by President Bush on Monday would produce eyepopping federal deficits, despite his attempts to impose politically wrenching curbs on Medicare and eliminate scores of popular domestic programs.
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    The Pentagon would receive a $36 billion, 8 percent boost for the 2009 budget year beginning Oct. 1, even as programs aimed at the poor would be cut back or eliminated. Half of domestic Cabinet departments would see their budgets cut outright.

    Slumping revenues and the cost of an economic rescue package will combine to produce a huge jump in the deficit to $410 billion this year and $407 billion in 2009, the White House says, just shy of the record $413 billion set four years ago.
     
  10. Chuck 4

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    Im endorsing McCain.
     
  11. jo mama

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    limbaugh also said that he would prefer hillary to mccain.

    and fox news president rupert murdoch has been holding fundraisers for hillary for years.

    are yall starting to get it now?

    WAKE UP PEOPLE!
     
  12. RocketManJosh

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    Exhibit A on why McCain is a terrible choice for conservatives. Mr. Mccain's positions change every time the wind changes directions. Of course I'll vote for him over Hillary or Obama because his views do lean more the way I vote. But I have far less respect for McCain than I do Obama (and sadly even Hillary). I have little faith that he will stick to his beliefs as President and he is going to get eaten alive in a general election for his flip flops.

    I'm casting my vote for Romney today and am proud that it looks like California is going to have more votes for Romney than McCain. Too bad its not a winner take all state.
     
  13. weslinder

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    Romney has changed quite a few positions as well.
     
  14. RocketManJosh

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    As do all politicians and many change their mind and do so in good consience. Mccain changes his opinion on the basis of what makes him look better and how the wind is blowing at the time (which I agree all politicians also do but not to the degree that McCain does).

    I live in California and heard a message on the radio from McCain about Illegal Immigration (the main reason he is now losing to Romney in CA because that is such a big issue here).

    He stated that he would not support any amnesty, illegals would go to the back of the line, employers would be punished for hiring illegals, and that he would build a fence along the border. Do any of you actually believe he would do these things because I am positive that he would not. I'd like him to prove me wrong, but I would be utterly shocked if it happened.
     
  15. count_dough-ku

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    You know, I get why Coulter and Rush don't like McCain. His views on immigration and campaign finance reform pissed off a lot of conservatives. But the current President signed that campaign finance reform bill into law and supported the same crappy immigration bill, yet they go out of their way to defend him against the Dems.

    I have my issues with McCain, but I'm also sensible and honest enough to admit I'd support him as the GOP nominee over much more liberal candidates like Hillary and Obama. I wish these conservative talk show hosts and pundits would admit the same.
     
  16. hatemavs4life

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    Before you all orgasm over yourself for Mr McCain you might want to delve into the following ...

    How the Clintons will undo McCain

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    Posted: February 4, 2008
    1:00 a.m. Eastern


    By Jack Wheeler



    The number of fellow senators who think John McCain is psychologically unstable is large. Some will admit it publicly, like Thad Cochran who says, "The thought of his being president sends a cold chill down my spine."

    Others relate times when McCain screamed four-letter obscenities right in their faces in the Senate cloak room, like Dick Shelby, Rick Santorum or Jim Inhofe. "The man is unhinged," one senator told me. "He is frighteningly unfit to be commander-in-chief."

    That John McCain is clinically nuts is scary enough. What worries a small group of GOP senators and congressmen even more is a deep and dark skeletal secret in McCain's glorified past to which they are privy, and which the Clintons will use to blackmail him.

    They have been having discussions with a Russian whom we'll call "T" for translator. T's father was the Soviet military intelligence officer who ran the "Hanoi Hilton" prison holding captured Americans during the Vietnam War. One of those prisoners was John McCain.

    The GRU – Glavnoje Razvedyvatel'noje Upravlenije or main intelligence directorate of the Soviet (now Russian) Armed Forces – operated the entire North Vietnamese prison system holding American prisoners of war. GRU officers, all of whom were Russians, oversaw the interrogation of every American POW.

    The interrogations themselves were conducted by Vietnamese who spoke some English. After each interrogation session, which could often include torturing the prisoners at the direction of the GRU officers, the Vietnamese interrogator would write a report of the session – in Vietnamese.

    These reports had to be translated into Russian. T, a bright teenager living in the GRU compound in Hanoi, had become fluent in Vietnamese, and ended up translating many of the reports and interrogators' notes.

    John McCain, flying his A-4 Skyhawk, was shot down over Hanoi on Oct. 26, 1967. Badly injured from the ejection, he was beaten and abused by his captors. In July, 1968, his father, U.S. Navy Adm. J. S. McCain, was made CINCPAC, commander in chief, Pacific Command, commander of all U.S. military forces in the Vietnam theatre Upon learning this, the Vietnamese offered – according to McCain – to release him.

    McCain claims he refused, because he demanded all American POWs captured before him be released as well. He thus remained a prisoner when he could have gone home, and was subjected to constant brutal beatings and torture for years: that is the source of the "war-hero" saga making McCain a greater war-hero than any other American POW.

    Yet the offer of release would had to have been approved by the GRU overseers of the North Vietnamese – and T does not recall any such offer being made. T admits, however, that this took place before McCain was transferred to Hoa Loa prison, nicknamed the "Hanoi Hilton" by the POWs. T had only direct knowledge of what happened at Hoa Loa, and not the other prisons, where T's father was in charge.

    McCain was kept at the Hanoi Hilton from December 1969 until his release, along with all the remaining POWs, in March 1973. During this time, T translated all the Vietnamese interrogators' notes and reports regarding John McCain.

    According to T, they reveal that McCain had made an "accommodation" with his captors, and in exchange, T's father saw that he was provided with an apartment in Hanoi and the services of two prostitutes. Upon returning to his prison cell, he would say he had been held in solitary confinement. That may be why so many of his fellow prisoners said later they saw so little of him at Hoa Loa.

    The notes and reports written in Vietnamese were sent to Moscow, where T was a now a college student, for T's translation into Russian, then placed into GRU archives. That's where they stayed until 1991. Late that year, as the Soviet Union was collapsing, the CIA and the GRU made a deal for a document swap.

    All of what it involved, T doesn't know. What T's father, by now retired but still with substantial contacts within the GRU, did learn (and thus T learned) was that the swap included all of T's translations.

    In other words, the CIA has in its possession the notes and reports of John McCain's interrogators at the Hanoi Hilton, in both the original Vietnamese and translated Russian, showing collaboration with his Communist captors.

    Allegations of this nature have been made over the years, many by Vietnam veterans. There is an even an organization, Vietnam Veterans Against McCain But they are based on suspicions and circumstantial claims. There has never been any hard, direct evidence.

    What T says the CIA has is such evidence. Its release would destroy McCain. The threat of its release could force McCain to take a fall, blow the election and lose on purpose. And just who do you suppose would know what the CIA has and work with them to release it?

    Someone who has been a CIA asset since he was recruited by London station chief Cord Meyer while a student at Oxford in 1968?

    (

    (Back in the '90s, years after he retired, if Cord drank a little too much Scotch he would laugh derisively at those conspiracists who accused Bill Clinton of being connected with the KGB. "They all darkly point to Bill's participation in anti-war peace conferences in Stockholm and Oslo, and his trip to Leningrad, Moscow and Prague while he was at Oxford. 'Who could have paid for this?' they ask. 'It had to be the KGB!' they claim." Cord would shake his head. "What rot – we paid for it. We recruited Bill the first week he was at Oxford. Bill's been an asset of The Three Bad Words ever since." Cord passed on in 2001.)

    The small group of senators and congressmen who have been briefed by T have been unable to confirm with the CIA any details of its document swap with the GRU beyond an admission that such a swap "may have happened." They are very nervous about pursuing the matter any further.

    The Clintons are not nervous. They are utterly ruthless, and they have buddies at Langley all too happy to help them.

    It has been noted many times in To The Point that while most folks think the CIA is a right-wing outfit, it is not. The CIA has been dominated by left-wing hyper-liberals for years.

    The CIA is a left-wing, liberal outfit, and its main job for some time now is not attacking America's enemies but conservatives in general and George W. Bush in particular. The story is best told by friend Ken Timmerman in his new book "Shadow Warriors."

    When the time is right, the Clintons will see to the leaking of the GRU archives on McCain to the media. Bet on it, just as you can bet they'll follow it up with media disclosures of the lady lobbyists in Washington having adulterous affairs with McCain. (There are at least three of them; I know the name of one, but I'm not going to put it in writing.)

    Maybe McCain will try to fight back by confirming Hillary's well-known bisexuality and her lesbian affair with her beautiful assistant, Huma Abedin. Google "Hillary" and "Huma Abedin," and you'll get almost 6,000 hits. Turns out Huma is a Muslim who grew up in Saudi Arabia and is strongly suspected of working for Saudi intelligence.

    Or maybe he'll capitulate to Clinton blackmail. You never can tell what a psychologically unstable guy will do.

    And that last point is why – be prepared for this, folks – I would not in any circumstances vote for John McCain, not if either Hillary or Obama were the alternative. Evil is safer than crazy. Leftie, amateur inexperience is safer than crazy. So I agree with Ann Coulter who says:

    "I'd rather deal with President Hillary than with President McCain. With Hillary, we'll get the same ruinous liberal policies with none of the responsibility."

    How in the world can the Republican Party get saddled with a nutcase wack job who knows nothing about economics, is so anti-capitalist he uses "profit" as a term of derision, has never run a business or had any job outside of government, will raise taxes, is so stupid that he believes "stopping global warming" is worth destroying the American economy, won't drill ANWR, won't appoint strict constructionist justices, won't protect marriage, will give amnesty to 20 million illegal aliens, is beloved by the New York Times and lives in a delusionary world of vanity and rage?

    Rush is right. A McCain presidency will be the destruction of the Republican Party. It needs to be rebuilt, not wiped out with the field clear for the fascists of the left to consolidate power and eliminate freedom.

    And maybe the only way to rebuild it is in dedicated impassioned opposition to a Clinton White House. That should be the subject of Ann Coulter's next book. I've already got the title for her. Her last book was "If Democrats Had Any Brains, They'd Be Republicans."

    Ann needs to now write this book: "If Republicans Had Any Brains, They'd Be Republicans." (A Yogi Berra note: There still is a chance for Romney, the last remaining hope. If he can win enough delegates on Super Tuesday next week, combined with Huckabee winning Georgia and other southern states, it may still be possible for McCain to end up with only a plurality of delegates, not a majority, at the end of primary season. An open convention is still possible, during which Republicans could come to their senses. It's not over until it's over.)


    Jack Wheeler is editor of ToThePointNews. He served in six conflicts against communist guerrillas, sky-dived at the North Pole, discovered three unknown tribes and holds a Ph.D. in philosophy from the University of Southern California, where he lectured on Aristotelian ethics.

    The Washington Post called Wheeler a "right-wing Indiana Jones." He is widely credited with inspiring the "Reagan Doctrine," which called for U.S. support of freedom fighters.

    Also, this ...

    Anybody except McCain in the White House!!!

    http://www.amconmag.com/2008/2008_02_11/buchanan.html


    According to the aforementioned, we would be better off with Billary than McCant.

    He is going to be pro-war as he intonated recently that Iraq will be a 100 years war plus, there will be other wars (Iran, Syria?) Oh and those tax cuts and tax breaks forget it with McCain he'll outspend the heftiest of bloated bureaucrats.

    Plus, he thinks it's a good idea to just give illegal aliens a free pass. Hello! Our immigration offices are already backed up so forget background checks. We will have no idea what type of people are coming across our borders. Oh and by the way, do you find it a bit ironic that protecting Iraq's borders, Afghanistan's borders, Korea's borders are more important than OURS?

    I'm just saying ... but hey, if the aforementioned is your idea of a party well then, laissez le bon temps roule and please give me a double helping of eradicating basically ALL my liberties and make America a police state!
     
  17. KingCheetah

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    McCain is more liberal than Hillary.


    If he just wasn't so damn old...75 at the end of his first term. :eek:
     
  18. Deckard

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    So John McCain is nuts, was given a hotel room and the services of two whores in Hanoi, Bill Clinton was recruited by the CIA, which is run by ultra-leftists, and the Clintons have McCain's POW lies ready to leak during the election thanks to the GRU, via the CIA. Have I got that straight?

    Right. (give us all a break!)




    Impeach Bush.
     
  19. danny317

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    the article forgot to mention U, V, W, X, Y, and Z.
     
  20. jo mama

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    this is all old news. im surprised you didnt know any of this - especially the clinton-cia connections.

    its not uncommon for the cia to recruit people out of college - anderson cooper is another example.

    furthermore, clintons cia connections are evident in the goings on around mena, arkansas in the 80's with the iran-contra drug/weapons smuggling going on which clinton refused to investigate, despite repeated requests from the people of arkansas to do so.

    its all good though - republicans are bad - democrats are good. the clintons are great people and love us all so much! :rolleyes:
     

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