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Giuliani in over his head

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by pgabriel, Aug 11, 2007.

  1. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Giuliani says he misspoke

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    Aug. 11) - Republican presidential hopeful Rudy Giuliani said Friday that he misspoke when he said he spent as much time, if not more, at ground zero exposed to the same health risks as workers combing the site after the Sept. 11 attacks.
     
  2. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    btw, of course this is in reference to all the obama attacks that he's in over his head


    edit: seriously, does it bother you that he is still running on 9-11
     
  3. Deckard

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    It bothers me. He's an empty suit, as far as I'm concerned, running on a national tragedy and fear, just as Bush did after 9/11. No real program to offer the people, just an attempt to scare them into voting for him.



    D&D. Impeach Bush and His Puppeteer.
     
  4. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    Giuliani is hands down the most intelligent person running for President. That's obvious.

    Obama is just totally in over his head on a number of issues:
    1) Intelligence
    2) Foreign policy matters
    3) Political savvy
    Basically the guy just sounds good when reading. That's all he's got as far as I'm concerned.

    The guy has very little experience. Giuliani on the other hand is battle tested, being the mayor of New York for so long. 9-11 is only one part of the tremendous job that he did as mayor. He totally turned that city around from a safety and cleanliness perspective. His career in law was very distinguished prior to politics.
     
  5. Space Ghost

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    why would it bother anyone. Why would you ignore someones claim that they kept their city together during one of the worst disasters in American history, versus a certain other mayor in the south.... or are you more interested in hearing false promises from unproven canaditates?
     
  6. Batman Jones

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    Well, it bothers the hell out of NY firefighters and the other true heroes of 9/11, especially when he claims he was working at ground zero as often or more often than anyone. For someone who had a signature memorializing 9/11 heroes and victims for so many years, you're really letting him off easy. The real heroes of 9/11 won't. If Giuliani gets the GOP nod, those people will be this cycle's Swift Boat vets -- the difference is, their attacks will be true.
     
  7. El_Conquistador

    El_Conquistador King of the D&D, The Legend, #1 Ranking

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    A little wishful thinking on your part? Funny how you denounce the Swifties yet applaud a separate smear campaign. Typical LIBPOCRISY.

    Two key dynamics make your analogy dead wrong.
    1) Politico's have seen how impactful the Swifties were and saw how pathetic Forbes Kerry's response to it was. The lesson has been learned. REACT SWIFTLY TO SWIFTIES.
    2) 9-11 was a tragedy. Pimping it for political gain is done at your own peril. The backlash from the Libs using NY fire fighters as political pawns to disgrace a man considered a hero by his courage and valor during 9-11 is very risky business.
     
  8. Batman Jones

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    The Democrats aren't "using" the firefighters. They've had a mad on for Giuliani ever since 9/11. And they will be heard.

    If nothing else, he destroyed the 9/11 glow he's been sporting when he claimed to be "one of" the responders and to have worked as much or more often than any of the rest of them. You can damn well expect that statement to star in a campaign ad if he gets the nomination. It's not a smear tactic. He did it to himself.
     
  9. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I hope you aren't comparing 9-11 to Katrina. that certain city in the south was destroyed entirely. I'm not arguing that nagin did a good job but its hardly a comparable situation.
     
  10. jo mama

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    the new york fire fighters dont think he did such a tremendous job.

    texx, how can you go around continually calling other "liberals" when you support this tranny?

    he is pro-choice, anti-2nd amendment and not very strong in the "family values" department as evidenced by his string of failed marriages and the fact that his children do not speak to him. true, the fact that his first marriage was to his cousin should shore up the appalachian vote, but tranny giuliani has no shot with REAL conservatives.

    all he has going for him was that he was mayor of nyc...ON 9/11!!!

    hey texx, guess what???

    9/11!!!

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    9/11!!!
     
  11. SamFisher

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    Wow, I knew htat Trader_Jorge hated September 11 heroes, but man I never thought the woudl be so bold about it.

    Very disturbing.
     
  12. jo mama

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    talk about "LIBPOCRISY", who is the one exploiting 9/11 for political gain?
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    tranny giuliani's entire campaign is based on 9/11 and fear mongering.

    either you are being deliberately obtuse or you are just plain ignorant, but the "libs" are not using NY fire fighters. the firefighters are speaking for themselves. i suppose we can expect you to start smearing firefighters now. :rolleyes:
     
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    Note on the last post: if you do a Google image search for "Giuliani ground zero," you get nothing but him leading tours for politicians. (At least for the first ten pages... there may be something after that.)

    Hell, at least Bush climbed up on a pile once.

    Edit: I know the guy in the middle photo... he's from Albuquerque FD. I also know the last guy out of WTC I. I'd be very happy to arrange a meeting with them for TJ so they have a discussion about who is "political pawn."

    In the meantime, TJ, try reading this...

    http://www.newsday.com/news/local/newyork/nyc-fdny-pdf,0,7550635.htmlstory
     
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    I had no idea Trader Jorge was in love with a transvestite!
     
  16. tigermission1

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    Yeah, he's sooooooo in over his head, which is why he will be the next president of the United States...
     
  17. Deckard

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    So you are using the George W. Bush standard of Presidential Suit Measurement? Incompetence is OK? The Peter Principal the ruling philosophy? :)



    Impeach Doofus and His Dildo.
     
  18. FranchiseBlade

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    Rudy has screwed up royally. He pushed his public perception of him and 9/11 too far. Even though it was undeserved his heroic 9/11 persona was his greatest strength. He just tried to stretch it too thin with this BS.

    TJ is owned quite a lot on these boards, but rarely is it such a thorough thrashing as he has received in this thread.
     
  19. Space Ghost

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    I am comparing two mayors, each who had a major disaster on their hands. Neither had the power to fix things over night, so there is no argument there. While one can dispute this opinion, Guiliani did work on unifying the city. Nagin did everything in his power to put the blame off on everyone else.

    Our biggest problem is this nation is not the war, or terrorism, or illegal immigration, or healthcare or many of the other hot topics. Our biggest problem, which i have yet to see any of the candidates address, is the unity of our country. When the new "savior congress" has a lower rating than our president, we have problems. When our left wing is signaling the rest of the world that we don't want to win this war and retreat, regardless if victory is possible, we have problems.

    You can throw in skewed perspectives of Guliani's accomplishments while he was mayor, which of course is the nature of our current politics and division in our country, but the question is whether he should upstage his 9/11 accomplishments. If he's about unifying the country, then its completly ok in my book
     
  20. Deckard

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    And, of course, every problem with politics today is because of "the left wing." Talk about skewed perspectives.



    Impeach Doofus and His Dildo.
     

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