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Getting rid of/limiting guaranteed contracts

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Relativist, Mar 15, 2003.

  1. Relativist

    Relativist Member

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    Very interesting article

    Let's make a new deal: no guaranteed contracts

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    By Frank Hughes
    Special to ESPN.com


    As the NBA and the Player's Association go into top secret -- even double secret -- negotiations this summer in an attempt to extend the collective bargaining agreement and avoid an ugly public labor dispute in the next few years, presumably one of the topics that will be on the table is an age limit, where the league does not want players to be able to join until they are at least 20 years old.

    To me, this seems like an effort in futility. Since David Stern usually gets what David Stern wants, this appears to be a done deal -- especially since, as we saw with rookie contracts in the last agreement, what do players already in the league care about some nameless, faceless phantom 18-year-old kid they don't know and whether or not he gets in the league to possibly take their job?


    The Magic shouldn't be forced to pay guaranteed money to an unhealthy Grant Hill, right.
    But what also seems like a done deal is that at some point some nameless, faceless phantom 18-year-old kid who can't get into college and doesn't want to go overseas is going to realize there was some dude way back named Spencer Haywood who successfully sued the league and won the right to join the NBA as an underclassman. The kid is going to go to court on the grounds that he has the right to earn a living no matter how old he is -- and considering there are 18-year-old bricklayers, he's got a point and just might win.

    What the NBA should be focusing on in its next negotiating session is the elimination of the guaranteed contract, the bane of the NBA.

    At the very least, the league should be asking the union that guaranteed contracts be limited to a maximum of three seasons. Certainly, a contract can run longer than three seasons, but only the first three are guaranteed, which would give teams more flexibility to cover past mistakes and allow them to maneuver their rosters to make everybody better.

    "I don't like that idea," Seattle SuperSonics guard Ray Allen said. "Teams have to take responsibility for the contracts they sign. They went out on a hunch and thought it would benefit them in the long run based on potential. That's always a bullet the team has to bite.

    "General managers have to be smarter. They have to know what they are doing. In a sense you are almost saying it's the player's fault. If you are giving that kind of money away, you should know what you are doing as an organization. You should know whether a guy is worth it or not."

    That may be true, but there are very few teams around the league who have not fallen victim to the curse of the guaranteed contract.

    By my count, there are only five teams in the league that don't have a contract that seems absurd. The teams: The Los Angeles Lakers, in part because all their money is devoted to Shaquille O'Neal and Kobe Bryant; the Los Angeles Clippers, because they don't pay anybody anything; the Detroit Pistons, who have all their money evenly dispursed; the Chicago Bulls, who pay Jalen Rose $12 million and everybody else less than $6 million; and the Sacramento Kings, who I think is the best and deepest team in the league and has done a fantastic job of amassing talents that are worth their every cent (relatively speaking).

    My list could be up for debate, of course, but by my count, there are 34 players who make a combined $307.8 million who, if they are not stealing money, certainly are not producing enough to justify the ludicrous contracts they have.

    I know, I know, some of it is not the player's fault, but does it really seem fair that the Orlando Magic have to be strapped with Grant Hill's $93 million deal, including $12 million this season, when he has played only a handful of games for them since he joined the Magic?

    From Jason Caffey ($5.2 million) to Alan Henderson ($7 million) to Vin Baker ($12.37 million) to Tom Gugliotta ($10.8 million) to the retired Hakeem Olajuwon ($5.6 million) to Alonzo Mourning ($20.6 million) to Brevin Knight ($5 million) to Calvin Booth ($4.9 million) to Terrell Brandon ($10.2 million) to Kelvin Cato ($6.7 million) to Danny Fortson ($5 million), the list goes on and on with players who are making money they clearly are not earning.

    Allen's point about good GMing has some legitimacy to it, like the case with Booth. But can GMs know that Mourning is going to contract a kidney disease? That Gugliotta almost died and has never fully recovered? And yet, their teams are handcuffed for years by fate frowning upon them.

    The NBA should do what the NFL does: If you produce, you get paid. If you don't produce, go find another line of work. That's how it happens in the real world.

    Few people in others professions get paid on their potential, and they certainly don't get paid if they don't ever live up to that potential. And that is one of the reasons the NBA is faltering, why the league sometimes institutes rules changes to change the dynamics of the game. For every Kobe and Tracy McGrady who strive for excellence, there are two Kelvin Catos who are simply too happy to have their money and are not willing to not just improve, but to even work at their games.

    "I don't think six- or seven-year contracts are good," Sonics coach Nate McMillan said. "It is too long of a commitment. Six or seven years is a long time to be guaranteed for the salaries that we give."

    If there are no rules, egomaniacal owners hungry to win a championship and further feed their self-esteem can't help themselves but give huge contracts. Can you say $252 million, ARod?


    Of course, there are those who will argue that teams are not forced to give players such long-term deals. But sports has a long, well-documented history of not being able to police itself. If there are no rules, egomaniacal owners hungry to win a championship and further feed their self-esteem can't help themselves but give huge contracts. Can you say $252 million, ARod?

    "In a sense they are (forced to pay) because that is what is out there," McMillan said. "That is what is negotiating. Everybody is asking for the max. If you don't give it to them, there is someone who will, and you will end up losing players."

    So at the very least, give three years guaranteed. That should be enough time for players to get financial security, as well as to establish themselves on their new teams. It is enough time for a player to show if he is deserving of another three-year guarantee, or only one year. And it is a small enough amount of time that if a team makes a mistake, it does not have to deal with that mistake into and sometimes past a new NBA cycle.

    It would improve the quality of the game, because players would strive to get better, knowing they have to actually work for their next contract. And, in the one thing fans love to see, it would enhance player movement because there would not be so many restrictions about trade possibilities.

    A cynic would say that every team would be suffering from what the Clippers are enduring this season, a bunch of young guys who care more about their statistics than they do about winning, which results in anarchy and bad play. As Allen told me, "This is an unfortunate business because stats are the bottom line. Winning is the biggest thing, but stats are the bottom line." But McMillan thinks that the Clippers' problems are a product of youth, that those players care more about what they can take into negotiating sessions than what the team does.

    McMillan said that on the Sonics' 1995-96 team that went to the Finals against the Chicago Bulls, there were seven free agents on that team, including Gary Payton.

    "It was the best season I think I played in," McMillan said. "You didn't have any problems, and everybody was doing what they were supposed to do. Fighting? They were playing."

    Wouldn't it be nice if every team was like that every year?


    I'm intrigued. I haven't thought it through clearly yet, but I like the idea of shorter guaranteed contracts. I wouldn't get rid of them entirely, but three years sounds like a reasonable time. No way I see players going for this though, unless it can be shown that the average non-max player or non-center will benefit.
     
  2. Relativist

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    Another problem will be retaining franchise players. You're going to have Webber and Duncan contract years twice as often, with twice the disruption, etc. But if the financial incentives remain the same, I guess teams will still retain the edge in keeping their stars.
     
  3. rockbox

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    Not true because the the teams will hold the options for the 4th, 5th and 6th year. It would work like the rookie contract for first rounders where the team has the option for the 4th year which we didn't exercise on Collier.

    Also it will make it better for players like Brand who deserve near the max. Since there are only three teams that can pay him that beside the Clipps, he is pretty much screwed. In this scenario we could dumpt Cato and Rice and go after him and Odom.

    Just like the NFL.
     
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  4. Easy

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    Too much player movement is not good for the sport. Teams lose identity too fast. Look at what Major League baseball has become. The NFL is fast becoming that too. You have to be a really hardcore fan to keep track of which players are playing where.

    I agree with Allen that GMs and owners should bite their bullets when they hand out stupid contracts. That's not the players' fault. The team is supposed to do their homework in evaluating players' worth. However, I think teams should be protected from being burned by non-talent related problems such as injuries and illnesses.
     
  5. Deckard

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    Very interesting read, Relativist. Thanks!
    I'm mulling it over. The contract change talked about will be fought tooth and nail by the Players Association. Clearly players with career-ending injuries that retire, or don't retire and should, leave a team in a straitjacket. If anything, there should be some sort of League-sponsered insurance for the players and/or the teams. They need to do something to take into account the "act of God" factor. What's going on now is unacceptable (or should be).

    On a side note, don't you find it amusing that Cato finally plays close to the minimum level everyone expected long ago and he's singled out as an example? LOL! If Kelvin hear's about this, and I bet he will, maybe he'll be a monster tomorrow. Or, he could be in a snit! :p
     
  6. Puedlfor

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    Player movement like the NFL is a bad, bad thing.

    Of course it's fair - Grant Hill was injured when he signed the contract. No one forced you to offer a huge deal to a guy coming off an ankle injury.

    That's a risk you take when you sign players to long-term contracts, at some point in that contract, they might get hurt - they could've offered a shorter three year deal - just like many teams can offer shorter contracts to players who display sparks of ability, but their future is still up in the air. You don't want salary deadweight on your team? Don't change the rules to cover up your mistakes - Get Smarter at Offering Contracts.

    On that list, most of those signings were mediocre players given large contracts based on a short period of above-average to excellent play. I fail to see why we should rescue the owners and General Managers from their own preventable mistakes, at the expense of the players.
     
  7. Apollo Creed

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    See, but the thing is, the players want the big, long contracts. Most would refuse guaranteed money for three years when they can get it for six.
     
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    When did basketball players start making this much money anyway?
     
  9. Puedlfor

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    Then two things will occur, in my opinion.

    First, the smart teams will work in option years and buyouts into their contracts, thus limiting their liability in case of catastrophe.

    Secondly, the teams that spend money willy-nilly will suffer, due to their own ignorance.
     
  10. Apollo Creed

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    Players hate team options, and they have to bend over backwards for their superstar players if they want to sign them. You think Francis or T-Mac or any of those guys would sign a contract for their 4, 5, 6 years to be team options?

    The players and their agents will bend teams over backwards and make them do exactly what they do now.
     
  11. Easy

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    In the free commercial world, the owners should be allowed to give whatever contract they see fit, and the players should be allowed to ask for whatever contract they think they can get. That's a fair game and if you make a stupid mistake, you reap the consequence.

    The problem with pro sports, however, is that the field of teams and the pool of players are too small. A couple of stupid owners can mess up the balance of the whole league, and the whole league (not just the particular team) will suffer.

    And the small pool of players means that they have more leverage then the normal "free market" labors. (Otherwise, how do you explain the big money some of the mediocre players are making?) If the team make a mistake and let a player go, they are often set back for half a decade.

    This issue is not an easy one to resolve.
     
  12. Puedlfor

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    But I'm not talking about superstar players - those players are going to get theirs anyway. I'm more talking about guys like Kelvin Cato, or Alan Henderson. You don't have to give guys who hadn't shown much large, long term contracts
     
  13. JuanValdez

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    Not sure what the point of this article is. The Players Association wouldn't agree to such a limitation in a bazillion years. Players want to be sure that their future is set. They don't want to go trhough contract hell every 3 years. And you may as well shorten the contracts with the guarantee because I player won't want to be locked into a contract that isn't guaranteed unless it is for the max.
     
  14. A-Train

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    I just hope the negotiations go smoothly. I don't know if I could wait until February for hoops to start...
     

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