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Get Our Defenese Back, Play Deke

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by coolthunderz, Jan 7, 2009.

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  1. coolthunderz

    coolthunderz Member

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    We need to get our defenese back, and the only way to do that is if we play deke. Yao is watching ppl hit layup right in front of him. He never goes for the block and even when they miss, he doesnt get the rebounds. Let Deke show him how to protect the paint again.
     
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    You really believe Wafer can replace T-mac and Deke can let us forget Yao? Naive.
     
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    it wasn't a coincidence that we had our best defensive stretch last season with Yao out. it wasn't a coincidence Boozer miraculously stopped looking like a HOF'er with Yao not guarding him. Mutombo is one of the greatest post defenders in NBA history. Yao will never reach Mutombo's level. Putting Mutombo in will just remind us all how bad Yao is defensively and on the glass.
     
  4. DaDakota

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    He is great on D, but the rest of the guys have to rotate and support each other a lot better.

    DD
     
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    If we are really penning our hopes for the season on 42-year old shot blocker, then all hope is lost.
     
  6. Evil Empire

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    yea our D is bad with Yao, but it's even worse without him. it's a non-stop lay-up drill for the other team..

    hopefully Mutombo can help lock down the paint, and give Yao some more rest in the process
     
  7. coolthunderz

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    Not replace, I just think we need get find some playing time for Deke, to kind of remind the team how to play D and protect the paint.
     
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    No doubt Deke played good D before age 41. But how about our offense, with how T-mac plays like this? One or two players change is not going to alter anything. Coach, maybe.
     
  9. ibm

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    yao had 3 blocks last night.
     
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    and incorrect answer. deke is not the solution. he may be effective defensively on certain matchups, but not on a nightly basis.
     
  11. Jeff Who

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    We have to play Deke. At least see what he can. I am sure the defense will improve, because Landry really sucks
     
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    He had 3 blocks out of like 50 he coulda block
     
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    Our defense lies in the hands of Battier and Artest. Both guys influence not only the game but the players on their team when they hit the court. We need both of these guys healthy and on this team almost more then anyone else. They bring the D every night and that is a main reason why we are getting our ass's kicked. Deke is old and is not the answer, however he has more defense in his finger then T-mac has in his whole body.
     
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    ?????????

    When Yao is in our defense look 100 times better when he is out is like a layup drill.

    When Yao is in we are +7.5 out -7.1.

    BTW as Landry, Brooks, Wafer, Head, Berry and Hayes as a center continues to get minutes our defense will suck. simple as that.
     
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    I think it's pretty clear why our defense has fallen off. It has to do, mostly, with the players on the floor. If JVG was here, the only way he'd get us to defend better is by using different players.

    Hmm .. ok, maybe not. As others have said, he'd probably try to simplify things on offense and make it more structured. And on defense, he'd define roles and positioning more clearly. JVG won't let players forget their responsibilities. Adelman seems to be more about getting his players to figure stuff out on their own. That's my very vague impression, perhaps that's unfair.
     
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    yes yes. yao should avg 50pts/30rebs/10asts/50blks a game. otherwise he really sucks. gocha yo.
     
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    I think Wafer is better than Tmac right now....until Tmac gets his health and confidence back I would start Wafer over him.

    Neither plays a lick of defense but at least Wafer can improve.

    DD
     
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    At least we know Wafer is trying.
     
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    I do believe Deke is far better than Yao on the defensive end even if he plays on one leg. It is simply because Deke has been in the league for god knows how many years and he is still a faster player than Yao even tho he's like 50 years older. Yao is an exceptional 1 on 1 defender in his position but he's not very good in help defense because he's simply not fast enough to cover the space. He can't help it because he's just so big. Deke's different because he reacts to the plays easily from all the experiences he had in the league and he knows where to go after the rebound after he reads the opponent's offensive scheme in each and every possession. Yao and Deke plays quite differently tho because Yao tends to box out for others to get the defensive rebounds while Deke just fight for the position & get the rebound for himself. This is one of the reason why Scolandry avg 20+ rebounds per game. If Deke is the starting center for the Rox, then Scolandry will probably avg at max 8rbs per game. :eek:
     
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    To be honest, i think Mr. Batman worth just as much (probably more in my opinion) compare to Mr. Mount Everlast when he was with the rox last season.

    After the last couple of games i hope you guys realize how important SHANE is to this team. He brings so many things to the table that the stat sheet doesn't show.
    -defense (Not only he's an exceptional 1 on 1 defender, but he is also the commander in rox' team defense at the same time.)
    -offense (He stretches the floor for Yao and he's probably the 2nd best on the team in passing the ball to the paint)
    -hustle plays (nuff said)
    His plays this season were not as good compare to the last couple of years he has been playing, but that is because he was not 100% healthy.

    Deke will compliment the whole team with couple main factors he brings on the table
    -he relieves Yao from the long minutes he logs every game.
    -he's a better defender because of his experience and athleticism (even tho he doesn't has much but he's still faster than Yao :( )
    -he also brings out the fire of the team as every rox player respects him and see him as a leader.
     

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