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George Bush a long way from Christianity!

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Yetti, Feb 14, 2003.

  1. Yetti

    Yetti Member

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    When George Bush became our President, I looked forward to a kinder time of Understanding and Peace! Now I get upset everytime I see him on TV. talking about Iraq and Sadam. His hatred seems to be consuming him and is an expression which in principle is the reverse of Christianity.
     
  2. glynch

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    In George Bush's version of Christianity, those Muslims and others who disagree with his fundamentalist mix of religion and politics are "evil". Christians have the right to kill "evil" people.

    It is no accident that before his handlers clued him in he referred to his plans for the Middle East as a "crusade".

    Even more frightening is the idea that Bush could be one of these Christian fanatics who almost welcomes Armageddon so he can be raptured.

    I've always subscribed to the viewpoint that Bush was like Pat Robertson and a lot of the born again Christian politicos merely using religious themes to create a coalition of working class Christians and the wealthy to vote for the typical fat cat economics of the Republican Party. Certainly this was the case with Reagan who hadn't been to church for many years before pretending to be a leader of the fundamentalist Christian crowd.

    However, there is the disturbing possibility that Bush II is really a Christian fundamentalist who is eager to engage in a "clash of civilizations" with the fundamentalist relgious nuts of the Middle East.
     
  3. rockHEAD

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    certainly you were joking!!??
     
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    <b>glynch</b>: Are you losing (not loosing) your (not you're) mind?

    That is some of the most reckless slander I have seen on this board.

    When has Bush ever endorsed killing Muslims? You know you are lying about that. <b>LYING</b>. Bush has embraced peace-loving Muslims and Jews alike-- neither of which embrace his Christian faith. Can you find me an instance where he calls them all evil in a sweeping generalization? No, of course you can't.
     
  5. Chance

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    Well stated and professionally put.
     
  6. Jeff

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    Why did this thread have to get started? Why oh why?
     
  7. giddyup

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    Thanks. I hate to call someone a liar publicly -- and I almost backed off-- but this seemed so ridiculous. Sorry, <b>glynch</b>.
     
  8. Pole

    Pole Houston Rockets--Tilman Fertitta's latest mess.

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    Too bad we don't enjoy a separation of Church, state, and BBS, huh Jeff?
     
  9. giddyup

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    You can bet that President Bush did too.... Who wants to deal with this mess.
     
  10. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    Exactly. I don't like the guy, but I'm pretty sure he didn't want 9/11 to happen.
     
  11. keeley

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    bless you, Jeff
     
  12. Hammer755

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    I disagree wholeheartedly. The Bible spells out very clearly that it is a ruler's responsibility to 'execute wrath on he who practices evil.'

    Romans 13: 1-4

    "1 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God.

    2 Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves.

    3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same.

    4 For he is God's minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God's minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil. "
     
  13. Jeff

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    I like...stuff. - Ralph Wiggum
     
  14. glynch

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    Giddyup: When has Bush ever endorsed killing Muslims?

    I didn't say that. So I guess I'm not a liar.

    I guess I should point out that I said: those Muslims and others who disagree with his fundamentalist mix of religion and politics are "evil"

    Bush just wants to kill "evil" Muslims. It should be noted that Bush does not think all Muslims are "evil".

    Thanks to Hammer for supplying some of Bush's theology for us.

    4 For he is God's minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God's minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil. "
     
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  15. Hammer755

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    Obviously you like to deal in blanket statements, so the distinction between disagreement and evil is a difficult one for you. Here is an example of the difference:

    1. People who stage anti-war rallies/protests - disagree but not evil
    2. People who hijack planes and fly them into buildings (or even those that support this action) - evil

    3. Saddam Hussein - I'll let you figure this one out on your own
     
  16. pgabriel

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    The Bible also says to Turn the Other Cheek.

    Point is, Religion and Politics don't mix.

    This thread is stupid.
     
  17. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    I'm with pgabriel. The Bible says whatever you want (exceptions like "more anal sex please" exist, of course) if you look long enough. Sadly religion and politics are mixing more than ever in the US of A. And oh but is this thread ever stupid.
     
  18. giddyup

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    <b>glynch</b> writes: "In George Bush's version of Christianity, those Muslims and others who disagree with his fundamentalist mix of religion and politics are "evil". Christians have the right to kill "evil" people.

    It is no accident that before his handlers clued him in he referred to his plans for the Middle East as a "crusade".

    Even more frightening is the idea that Bush could be one of these Christian fanatics who almost welcomes Armageddon so he can be raptured."

    What non-fundamentalist Christian (Christians, Jews, and Muslims alike) would agree with your allegation about Bush's version of Christianity? None. Yet these are his "evil people" that you say he says Christians have a right to kill. That's a lie.

    That flare-up about the use of the word crusade was nothing more than political correctness unless you, yeah you, think that this is Bush's Holy War.

    Isn't Armageddon a final battle? Since you don't believe in Armageddon, you characterize Bush as a sociopath.
     
  19. Hammer755

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    Way to take a vague quote and use it completely out of context.

    The original post said the Bush is being a hypocrite by professing to be a Christian while displaying non-Christian behavior. I posted to refute that opinion.

    Everyone wants to believe that Christianity is about 'Peace and Understanding', but it is not. It is about taking responsibility for your actions and having the proper attidude while dealing with life.
     
  20. Mrs. Valdez

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    I thought the point was to glorify God and Enjoy him forever.
     

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