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Garden of American Heroes

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by bobrek, Jan 19, 2021.

  1. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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  2. No Worries

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    Who is going to pay for this nonsense?
     
  3. B-Bob

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  4. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    You don't have to go too far to find a glaring omission - Arthur Ashe
     
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    How big is this garden supposed to be? That's a huge list of names.
     
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  6. JuanValdez

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    I think it could be cool. I'd like each statue to get a biography to handle the sometimes mixed history of major figures.
     
  7. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    I don't consider many actors, singers, and authors to be American heroes. I think we can scrap this one into the garbage.
     
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    If no one pays for it, it is just ... an idea.
     
  9. Space Ghost

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    Its brilliant and inevitable. Future generations need statues to tear down too now that we are removing the ones from the past.

    Neil Armstrong yelled at his wife once. Tear it down!
    I cut my hand on a glass lightbulb and required stitches. Down with Edison!
     
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  10. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"

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    It could create jerbs, right? A whole department dedicated to pruning the garden and moving the statues in and out of storage.

    The far left in San Francisco is currently proposing to remove the name of nearly every president from the elementary and junior high schools all around town, because in each case, they can underline a historical act that is now a full-on transgression. This includes... Abraham LIncoln.

    So no, not teaching the context and actual complex history of real human beings, warts and all. I guess we'll end up with schools named after various plants, as long as none of the plants cause allergies or act as poisons to dumb pets.
     
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  11. heypartner

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    Trump: "And ... I'm going to make Antifa pay for it."


    List of names [ with my additions, giving +1 to Immigrates from oppression ]
    overall, impressed with the list​

    (b) Section 3(c)(i) of Executive Order 13934 is amended to read as follows: “The National Garden should be composed of statues, including statues of

    Ansel Adams,
    John Adams,
    Samuel Adams,
    Muhammad Ali,
    Luis Walter Alvarez,
    Susan B. Anthony,
    Hannah Arendt,
    Louis Armstrong,
    Neil Armstrong,
    Crispus Attucks,
    --> Arthur Ashe @bobrek
    John James Audubon,
    Lauren Bacall,
    Clara Barton,
    Todd Beamer,
    Alexander Graham Bell,
    Roy Benavidez,
    Ingrid Bergman,
    Irving Berlin,
    Humphrey Bogart,
    Daniel Boone,
    Norman Borlaug,
    William Bradford,
    Herb Brooks,
    Kobe Bryant, [good thing this thread is in D&D]
    William F. Buckley, Jr.,
    Sitting Bull,
    Frank Capra,
    Andrew Carnegie,
    Charles Carroll,
    John Carroll,
    George Washington Carver,
    Johnny Cash,
    Joshua Chamberlain,
    Whittaker Chambers,
    Johnny “Appleseed” Chapman,
    Ray Charles,
    Julia Child,
    Gordon Chung-Hoon,
    William Clark,
    Henry Clay,
    Samuel Clemens (Mark Twain),
    Roberto Clemente,
    Grover Cleveland,
    Red Cloud,
    William F. “Buffalo Bill” Cody,
    Nat King Cole,
    Samuel Colt,
    Christopher Columbus,
    Calvin Coolidge,
    James Fenimore Cooper,
    Davy Crockett,
    Benjamin O. Davis, Jr.,
    Miles Davis,
    Dorothy Day, J
    oseph H. De Castro,
    Emily Dickinson,
    Walt Disney, W
    illiam “Wild Bill” Donovan,
    Jimmy Doolittle,
    Desmond Doss,
    Frederick Douglass,
    Herbert Henry Dow,
    Katharine Drexel,
    Peter Drucker,
    --> W.E.B Du Bois​
    Amelia Earhart,
    Thomas Edison,
    Jonathan Edwards,
    Albert Einstein,
    Dwight D. Eisenhower,
    Duke Ellington,
    --> Ralph Ellison [and appropriate he'd be listed next to his namesake]​
    Ralph Waldo Emerson,
    Medgar Evers,
    David Farragut,
    the Marquis de La Fayette,
    Mary Fields,
    --> Bobby Fischer -- except he blew it with his big mouth​
    Henry Ford,
    George Fox,
    Aretha Franklin,
    Benjamin Franklin,
    Milton Friedman,
    Robert Frost,
    Gabby Gabreski,
    Bernardo de Gálvez,
    Lou Gehrig,
    Theodor Seuss Geisel,
    Cass Gilbert,
    Ruth Bader Ginsburg,
    John Glenn,
    Barry Goldwater,
    Samuel Gompers,
    Alexander Goode,
    Carl Gorman,
    Billy Graham,
    Ulysses S. Grant,
    Nellie Gray,
    Nathanael Greene,
    Woody Guthrie,
    Nathan Hale,
    William Frederick “Bull” Halsey, Jr.,
    Alexander Hamilton,
    Ira Hayes,
    Hans Christian Heg,
    Ernest Hemingway,
    Patrick Henry,
    Charlton Heston,
    Alfred Hitchcock,
    Billie Holiday,
    Bob Hope,
    Johns Hopkins,
    Grace Hopper, [nice, thought they'd miss her]
    Sam Houston,
    Whitney Houston,
    Julia Ward Howe,
    Edwin Hubble,
    Daniel Inouye,
    Andrew Jackson,
    Robert H. Jackson,
    Mary Jackson,
    John Jay,
    Thomas Jefferson,
    Steve Jobs,
    Katherine Johnson,
    --> Lady Bird​
    Barbara Jordan,
    Chief Joseph,
    Elia Kazan,
    Helen Keller,
    John F. Kennedy,
    Francis Scott Key,
    Coretta Scott King,
    Martin Luther King, Jr.,
    Russell Kirk,
    Jeane Kirkpatrick,
    Henry Knox,
    Tadeusz Kościuszko,
    --> Hedy Lamarr [the immigrant, Hollywood starlett who invented WiFi/Bluetooth ... :)]
    Harper Lee,
    Pierre Charles L’Enfant,
    Meriwether Lewis,
    Abraham Lincoln,
    Vince Lombardi,
    Henry Wadsworth Longfellow,
    Clare Boothe Luce,
    Douglas MacArthur,
    Dolley Madison,
    James Madison,
    --> Benoit Mandelbrot [polish immigrant, too]​
    George Marshall,
    Thurgood Marshall,
    William Mayo,
    Christa McAuliffe,
    William McKinley,
    Louise McManus,
    Herman Melville,
    Thomas Merton,
    George P. Mitchell,
    Maria Mitchell,
    William “Billy” Mitchell,
    Samuel Morse,
    Lucretia Mott,
    John Muir,
    Audie Murphy,
    Edward Murrow,
    John Neumann,
    Annie Oakley,
    Jesse Owens,
    Rosa Parks,
    George S. Patton, Jr.,
    --> Linus and Eva Pauling [let them share a statue]​
    Charles Willson Peale,
    William Penn,
    Oliver Hazard Perry,
    John J. Pershing,
    Edgar Allan Poe,
    Clark Poling,
    John Russell Pope,
    Elvis Presley,
    Jeannette Rankin,
    Ronald Reagan,
    Walter Reed,
    William Rehnquist,
    Paul Revere,
    Henry Hobson Richardson,
    Hyman Rickover,
    Sally Ride,
    Matthew Ridgway,
    Jackie Robinson,
    Norman Rockwell,
    Caesar Rodney,
    Eleanor Roosevelt,
    Franklin D. Roosevelt,
    Theodore Roosevelt,
    Betsy Ross,
    --> Mark Rothko (another immigrate fleeing Russia)​
    Babe Ruth,
    Sacagawea,
    Jonas Salk,
    John Singer Sargent,
    Antonin Scalia,
    Norman Schwarzkopf,
    Junípero Serra,
    Elizabeth Ann Seton,
    -- > Claude E. Shannon​
    Robert Gould Shaw,
    Fulton Sheen,
    Alan Shepard,
    Frank Sinatra,
    Margaret Chase Smith,
    Bessie Smith,
    Elizabeth Cady Stanton,
    Jimmy Stewart,
    Harriet Beecher Stowe,
    Gilbert Stuart,
    Anne Sullivan,
    William Howard Taft,
    Maria Tallchief,
    Maxwell Taylor,
    Tecumseh,
    Kateri Tekakwitha,
    Shirley Temple,
    Nikola Tesla,
    Jefferson Thomas,
    Henry David Thoreau,
    Jim Thorpe,
    Augustus Tolton,
    Alex Trebek,
    Harry S. Truman,
    Sojourner Truth,
    Harriet Tubman,
    Dorothy Vaughan,
    C. T. Vivian,
    John von Neumann,
    Thomas Ustick Walter,
    Sam Walton,
    --> Andy Warhol​
    Booker T. Washington,
    George Washington,
    John Washington,
    John Wayne,
    Ida B. Wells-Barnett,
    Phillis Wheatley,
    Walt Whitman,
    Laura Ingalls Wilder,
    Roger Williams,
    John Winthrop,
    Frank Lloyd Wright,
    Orville Wright,
    Wilbur Wright,
    --> Chuck Yeager​
    Alvin C. York,
    Cy Young,
    Lorenzo de Zavala.”
     
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  12. Nook

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    Seriously, is there anyone that isn't on the list?

    I was have expecting to see @Clutch on the list.
     
  13. VooDooPope

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    List is incomplete.

    Please add:
    Hakeem Olajuwon
     
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    Shocked he didn’t list himself.
     
  15. KingCheetah

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    'You have too many'
     
  16. heypartner

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    addition by subtraction
     
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  18. heypartner

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    Fred Rogers is missing

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    and Christian Wood. there I said it
     
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    How much traction is that actually getting?

    It seems a lot of these things are done for publicity and to put a marker down for how woke they are.
     

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