Games like this make me feel embarassed to be a Rockets fan.

It is not Rudy's fault that his team is playing like a bunch of sissies.

He was trying to get some scoring punch out there.

The Rockets need to shake it up.

DaDakota

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If Mankind evolved from Monkeys and Apes, then why are there still Monkeys and apes?

 

Your missing the most important thing in the whole game.

Thats when Calvin Murhpy refered to Hideyet Turkoglu as Billy Jones!


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President of the why in the Hell isnt Langhi playing club!!!

 

I am a Kings fan, but playing the Rockets tonight brought back a fond memory. Remember during the Rockets' first title run, I think it was game 7 against the Suns in the WCF. Sam Cassell, arookie at the time, hit a three toward the end of the game that was absolutely clutch, and the camera panned to Westphal's face, and the coach just had this smile on his face, like, "That kid is taking my title. *******." It was such a great moment. This year, the Rocket backcourt looks dope, but CWebb was out of his mind tonight. I sure hope we don't lose him. Good luck the rest of the year, Rockets fans.

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D,

Your team is beautiful to watch, they play good defense, are all unselfish and have a superstar player.

Kind of reminds me of the 1st Rocket championship team.

Good luck,

DaDakota

PS. Do you want Mo Taylor? We are giving him away for a tuft of armpit hair, cause they both stink.


[This message has been edited by DaDakota (edited December 09, 2000).]

 

ZRB you post alot of extreme fanatical posts. you have alot to rant after every game i noticed. not that itz bad but no team is perfect.

the rockets played ok. it wasnt a blowout.
sacremento is a damn good team. nothing wrong w/ losing by 10.

DaDakota is right our D is sissy at times. and francis plays sissy too.

i thought walt had a decent game. mo taylor does suck. kenny Thomas got lit up just as bad. hakeem was ok he didnt play very good help D on webber. moochie n mobley played good. francis was ok.

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I think the biggest point you guys are missing is that the Rockets just aren't very good. We don't have the talent to compete on a night-in-night-out basis with the best teams in the leauge. All the talent we have is wrapped up in a few very young, very inexperienced players.

Taylor is still sick and is playing poorly. Olajuwon shot terribly. Rudy ALWAYS plays the percentages and Moochie, Francis and Mobley had the hot hands.

Plus, Sacramento isn't exactly a horrible team. It isn't that we didn't play defense on Webber. The guy is FREAKIN' GOOD! Give the Kings some credit. They have the second best record in the entire NBA.

We just aren't a very good team right now.

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Mmmmmmm. Sacrelicious.

 

Well the fact is at this point the Kings are a step above, they have experience and all pieces in place. Can't you remember last year they were good looking but didn't get it done overall. Kings have aged and have gained much experience. Contrast that to our young, inexperienced team. Also not all pieces are in place...we still are missing something in the way of a rebounder and inside game(or whatever other piece you can thin of)(draft picks should help at years end I hope).

The lineup in the fourth quarter got us into the running game that got us within 8 points....(within 8 points and a 3-1 fast break{turnover on bad pass though}) That lineup was great, sadly on the road you have to do everything possible to swing the momentum and the turnover was end of something good.

I for one am not embarassed, they are a young team, each player has much experience to gain. This is what is happening. Yet they showed tons of heart to battle from -17 to -8 (hehe with fastbreak once again). I'm not saying moral victory, I'm saying reality, Kings are top tier of the league, that has to be clear by now...unless something goes totally heywire they are here to stay(in regular season only?). Rockets are going to fight for an 8th place spot.

Rockets are still a good team. Still a youthful team. Still an unexperienced and learning team. Yet they have already learned much....What kicks your @$$ can only make you stronger and better

Proud Rockets fan for life in wins and in loses for now

BTW it was a very good game, a good team battling a great team with sweat and blood. hehe oh yeah Student always becomes the teacher Glory years to come


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As Jeff said also, that I left out. Webber...it opens up a whole can of worms when you have a superstar, a goto/go through man. Think of our first championship year, take Hakeem away from the eqaution and put a stable but non superstar center in his place. Suddenly everything looks bad, don't have open looks, shot percentage falls, suddenly you have tons of mediocre(SP?) role players instead of very capable role players. Superstars, elite players, make it so much easier for the team/not to mention they make shots(duh). At this point we have a potential elite player in the makings(need I say Steve Franchise?), but at this point, we don't have tons of Talent+Experience...and hmm sorry to say, we have Mo at pf(not to say it couldnt work but hell we need something other than guards to rebound, defend/box out opposing rebounders instead of our guards, SF/PF/C? somewhere)

Anyways again....(pad those post, pad em) we lost to a better team....no shame in it though...we learn....circle of life(hehe the lions eat the hyennas, the lions die and turn to grass....blah blah blah)

TTFN

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Rudy should have C-Webb on speed dial. Whats the most we can offer him?

 

The primary problem is the lack of leadership.

We don't have enough veteran players on this team.

I shudder to think how much better we would be right now with Willis as our PF instead of No-Mo.

DaDakota

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If Mankind evolved from Monkeys and Apes, then why are there still Monkeys and apes?

 

I don't like hearing fans talk about "The primary problem is the lack of leadership." Or problems with chemistry or whatnot.

How are you diagnosing leadership issues by watching/attending games? What would look different about the game if we did have good leadership? We'd see players issuing more instructions? Shouting at each other more? Players deferring to one another?

How you can analyze team leadership as a spectator? Without practicing, lockerrooming, watching tape, travelling with the team?

Maybe you really mean, "Somebody should step up and play better." Or "The Rockets should play better at the end of close games against tough teams."

I'll buy that. But I don't think fans can diagnose leadership issues.

 

I humbley rebuttle your post ZRB. Even if it is a rant . This is my way of ranting....by anti ranting...hmm

Anyways, I know this is getting boring and every post of mine is going to say this tonight....but Francis is not going to be a elite player over night. He's not going to be our Franchise player over night...takes time(ugh Im even tired of myself saying it). I promise it will come in time, Francis will never be a bust...period, case close...takes time...

I have to disagree that Rockets at this point are more talented than the Kings...one through 8 Kings have incredible talent..sorry...it true(IMHO), everyone state your opinion on this. Kings have elite PF, extremely cold hearted good young PG playing above par, Stojakovic amasing shooter...pure as the rockies...Divac capable center, Christie scorer...Sorry but as I see it Kings have more talent(at this point)

The leadership and the attitude you talk about comes with time(last time I checked btw clippers have only won 6 games Seatle 11-11). Utah is Utah...need I say more...until Malone and Stockton leave they will have that toughness you speak of. Dallas has spent it's "TIME" of learning and gaining experience, so yes they have that toughness "NOW". It took TIME last time I checked, how many years without playoffs? This toughness you speak of, this attitude, has been displayed by the Rockets...just not refined and consistent yet....takes TIME...from my point of view they have battled hard on the road and shown a very good attitude...they will get better and gaining this attiude...takes time..

Ok Im going to go throwup, getting sick of myself and my TIME pholosophy...yuk yuk....but true...ask NBA analist about Rockets, what they say....this young team needs TIME...case closed (Pad those post, pad em)

Oh and I think Francis is shooting a good amount 15-20 is excellent for him...just wish he was taking some of the late shots that Mobley hoards...but he is shooting the right amount, from where he is coming from, how his attitude is towards the game, 15-20 is perfect...(article in newspaper today about his low fga was excellent)

Ok bye bye

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[This message has been edited by Digaida (edited December 09, 2000).]

 

jamcracker, i agree. For all we know, Matt Bullard is riding Mobley's ass hard for every time he hogs the ball... but in the locker room. There is so much about this team that we don't see, and the Rockets try to keep small or minor disputes behind closed doors so as not to cause commotion (ahem... Hakeem).

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She hates testicles, thus limiting the men she can admire to Democratic
candidates for president.
-- John Greenway, "The American Tradition", on feminist
Elizabeth Gould Davis

 

An away game loss to the Kings is NO disgrace. Barring injury, the Kings will take a serious run at the Western Conference finals. In many respects, the Kings right now are where the Rockets will be in 2-3 years.

Last year at this point, the Rockets were 7-12! Dream and Charles had played in most of those games. This year, Charles is gone, Dream is a year older, Cato has played a total of 25 minutes, our #15 pick is on the IR, our FA signing is not yet playing to potential, normally steady Shandon Anderson has been in a funk, 10 of our 19 games have been against WC playoff teams.......

Man, we should be ecstatic to be over .500!!



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It is not a case for forensic science. If you have a team on the court that looks lost and plays without cohesive effort, they need more leadership. Doesn't matter about the locker room. We don't need Matt to lead the team to the showers. To overstate the obvious, we need "on court leadership".

RunninRaven

Does that make Monica a true Republican?

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" If all babies are cute, why are there so many ugly people?"

 

Jam,

I respect your opinion, but for me it is easy to diagnose on court leadership, or a lack thereof.

You don't have to yell to be a leader, Hakeem was the leader of the team during their championship run, and he rarely yelled.

I am talking about the kind of leadership where the team looks to that leader to carry the team, make the proper decisions, and LEAD them. Francis can be that guy, but right now, he is not...I do buy Daigada(sp?) argument that it will take time.

It is just frustrating to watch. I did not expect to beat the Kings, but at least to compete for 48 minutes. We came out at the start and did not get after it right away, we seem to start the 1st and 3rd quarters against quality teams in a funk, it is a habit that I have noticed.

It is time for Francis to step up and Mobley to step back.

If the Rockets are going to get better, Francis needs to discover IT, look down the road...Jamison is in the process of discovering IT right now. HURRY STEVE...HURRY !!

DaDakota

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If Mankind evolved from Monkeys and Apes, then why are there still Monkeys and apes?

 

...don't worry next time Cato'll be back and Rudy T. will have him guard Vlade Divac.

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