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Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by gettinbranded, Jun 7, 2002.

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  1. gettinbranded

    gettinbranded Member

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    As Yogi Berra was fond of saying "It's gettin' late early".

    They have to put a W on this series NOW because no one in the NBA is good enough to beat L.A. in four of five games.

    In a fairly ref'd game that is. ;)
     
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    No one? The Kings would've if not for the fourth quarter of Game 6...
     
  3. SirCharlesFan

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    Christ! Would you give it up already? You've argued your point, everyone else has argued their point, its like abortion...you aren't going to change anyones mind about the situation.
     
  4. Rocket River

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    or Half time in game 4

    Lakers won the half time in that series
    Lakers 3 . . .Kings 0
    and that was the difference

    Rocket River:mad: :D
     
  5. The Cat

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    No, I won't. As long as everyone continues to kiss LA's ass about how unbeatable they are this year, I will remind them about how they "won" the Sacramento series. I want to drop the subject, but if you expect me to just sit here while the BBS gets in a Lakers lovefest you're mistaken.
     
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    Cat: No ones kissing the Lakers ass, most people here are pulling for the Nets. I agree that the Lakers arent unbeatable too, i mean look who finished first in the western conference.
     
  7. gettinbranded

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    LA won it by beating the regular season champs---champs who were shown up as frauds when the refs stopped wearing skirts for them to hide in.

    I feel sorry for you---sitting in your small world crying about how unfair the world is. So Adelman-like. It's an attitude like that that made the Kings give up and stop playing in the fourth quarter of that game instead of trying to play through it.

    Hey---guess what? If LA had reacted in games 2-5 like the Kings did in that one quarter, there wouldn't have been a game six.

    Instead of blaming the Refs for giving LA one quarter, blame the Kings for not manning up to the refs for that one quarter and the next 4 (5 if you count OT) like LA did for the 16 preceding.

    LA appropriately displayed...and move on to the Finals in the tradition of those having "the heart of a champion".


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  8. The Cat

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    The Kings stopped playing? The game was tied going into the fourth quarter, and the Kings held a one point lead with two minutes left. There was no give up in the Kings in that game, even though they knew they were getting screwed. There's no give up in me hoping for someone to beat the Lakers. Just because you acknowledge the fact that you were cheated doesn't mean you didn't try in spite of it.

    Oh, and the only game that was even debatably in Sac's favor was game 2. Game 3 was a blowout; officials played a very small role. Game 4 was all LA officiating... Walker's three after the buzzer, the numerous times LA's pressure defense was allowed to mug Bibby in the second half, etc. Game 5 went back and forth, though most of the Laker fouls came out of sheer stupidity.

    Displaying the "heart of a champion" means responding to adverse situations with passion, energy, and finding a way to win. In game 7, they did so. But there should've never been a game 7, if the refs didn't bail them out in game 6. They were up against the wall in game 6, and it wasn't the heart of a champion that won them a close fourth quarter game. It was 27 free throws. I feel sorry for anyone who is so blinded by their love of the Lakers or NBA that they can't see what actually went on.

    Sonics: Anyone who thinks the Lakers are a better team than the Kings, IMO, is kissing their ass. It's pretty obvious that GB thinks as such. The better team was obvious during the series.
     
  9. gettinbranded

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    It's getting old Cat...it's getting old.



    If the Kings were the better team then they should have won game 7 on their court in front of their fans. If they were the better team they would have been able to do the things they did that gave them a 3-2, almost a 3-1 lead. They failed.

    28 quarters of basketball were played---and you're carping about
    1. Whither the other 27?

    The Kings had all the advantages in game 7.
    The Kings had all the advantages in game 7.
    The Kings had all the advantages in game 7.
    The Kings had all the advantages in game 7.
    The Kings had all the advantages in game 7.
     
  10. The Cat

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    (Picture Kobe and Shaq instead of Jason Williams and Duhon)
    It's getting old GB, it's getting old.

    There shouldn't have been a game 7.
    There shouldn't have been a game 7.
    There shouldn't have been a game 7.
    There shouldn't have been a game 7.
    There shouldn't have been a game 7.

    BTW, I visit a lot of BBS' for teams. Kings fans think it was fixed. Spurs fans think it was fixed. Lakers fans think it was fixed. Politicians think it was fixed. Sports columnists think it was fixed. Is everyone a crying baby except for you and the few other Laker fans on this site?
     
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    Thats all fine and well, except you're ignoring the BASKETBALL questions.

    Why couldn't the Kings put it away in game seven? Why did they fail?

    A fix? Only the stupid think so...a nice editorial:

    I have just one question for Ralph Nader and all the others who have accused the NBA of fixing the Western Conference finals:

    What would be the league's motivation to cheat?

    I asked that question to a couple of frustrated Sacramento Kings rooters who made the same charge after the Los Angeles Lakers' thrilling Game 7 victory, and their reply was ''to boost television ratings for the NBA Finals so they can get more money from the networks.''

    But when you look at things logically (something fans rarely do), the conspiracy theories make little sense. Although it's true the Lakers are a better draw, the ratings difference between a Los Angeles-New Jersey and a Sacramento-New Jersey series would be minimal--certainly not enough to warrant the NBA putting its credibility on the line.

    As for the issue of getting more money from the networks, that's simply not true. The money the NBA will be paid for this year's Finals already has been determined, and the league recently signed a new six-year television contract that kicks in next season.

    Now, I'm not saying the officiating during the Lakers-Kings series was great. It was inconsistent, and the definition of what was a foul and what wasn't changed from game to game. The Kings got all the calls in Game 5, and the Lakers got all the calls in Game 6. Game 7, though, was called fairly, and in the entire series, there was a difference of one foul between the teams.

    To make the huge leap to say the officiating was dishonest, I don't see it.


    http://www.suntimes.com/output/jackson/cst-spt-jax07.html
     
  12. Desert Scar

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    Now that is a dumb ass comment. The refs were pretty bad (for the Lakers) in game 6 but most of the other games (especially game 7) it wasn't too bad either way. NO WAY the refs lead the Kings to being one Vlade Divoc pass to the wrong guy in the wrong spot from sweeping the middle games in LA . Sac simply was the better team those 2 games and deserved to win them, they just didn't on a fluke play. Now game 7, Sac (except for Bibby) showed themselves to be chumps, not champs, but that had nothing to do with referees either way, nor to exceptional play by the Lakers. Sac choked on the shots they normally make, Lakers scrape by a fingernail, great series either team could have easily won, end of story.

    This thread started out good. I agree the Nets must win today. They need to win today plus 2 of the next 3 at home to have any kind of legit shot IMO. It is possible, but don't count on it.
     
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    I agree...awesome series. LA looked like they were going to have their lunch handed to them.

    But in the one even game---7---the Kings played well, but did not have their swagger or killer instinct.
     
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    What would be the league's motivation to cheat?

    That's the easiest question I've ever heard. The league didn't particularly care about who won the series. As the writer said, the difference in ratings would be minimal, and a Sacramento-New Jersey series might have been more competitive. However, did you see the ratings for game 7 of the WCF? They were huge! All the NBA cared about was getting to that game seven so they could have the ratings game of a lifetime. If the Kings were down 3-2, I bet they would've received the same calls, even in Los Angeles.

    Game 7's late in the playoffs mean so much. It's millions of dollars in advertising, and an opportunity to pump life back into a league that has had sagging ratings since Jordan's first retirement. Furthermore, you had clearly the top two teams in the NBA in the series. It's Kobe, Shaq, and the two time defending champions. It's the new kids on the block-- Chris Webber, the Kings, and their exciting brand of basketball. Do you not think the NBA realized how marketable that series was? And, with the Lakers on the verge of elimination before a game 7... they shoot 27 free throws in the fourth quarter. Right. This isn't about Los Angeles or "big market" teams... it was all about getting to a game seven. In that game, it was called fairly, and the Lakers won a close game. Congrats to them. The problem is that game should've never been played.
     
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    This is a fun game. :)
     
  16. The Cat

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    I agree, it must be fun for y'all to post mindless drivel with nothing substantial to back it up. If what I was doing was "crying" and had no merit, you should easily be able to disprove my points. So far, no one in this thread has come close...
     
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    ahh, Cat. Don't take yourself so seriously.

    And, incidentally, exactly what does it mean to us for you to say we haven't disproved any of your points? I haven't really even read the thread, I was just posting the crying baby to amuse myself. But isn't whether or not we have disproved your points an opinion just like your opinion that the Lakers/Kings series was fixed? I am pretty sure it is the opinion of some in this thread that they indeed HAVE disproved some of your points. I don't know, man. It just seemed like a ridiculous thing to say.

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    I don't see how. Basically, all I've heard is that the Kings had their chances in game 7 to win even if there was a fix, which is true. The main point I've had is that the fourth quarter of game 6 was one of the worst officiated that I have ever seen. No one's denied it. Everyone has tried to dance around it, either claiming that games 2-5 were fixed (BS... check the tapes) or that the Kings should've won Game 7 anyway. No one has tried to prove that the fourth quarter of game 6 wasn't biased or fixed, and without that, there's not a game seven. Period.
     
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    Why is the thread called "Game 7 for the Nets tonight"? We are still talking about THAT series. :rolleyes:

    YAWN!
     
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    Dude...prove that it was.

    You can't. And we that don't believe it was fixed can't prove that it wasn't either.

    All we can say is that IT DID NOT DETERMINE THE WESTERN CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP.

    It would have left a bad taste in my mouth for it to have been determined there too.

    BUT THE KINGS HAD ANOTHER SHOT AT THE CHAMPIONSHIP AND BLEW IT!


    In review--- fixed or not it cannot be proved, should have been played, should not have been played cannot be proved, Kings had a final shot and blew it...can be proved.

    Have a good day.

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