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[Gamasutra] A Japanese RPG Primer: The Essential 20

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  1. RC Cola

    RC Cola Member

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    http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/3581/a_japanese_rpg_primer_the_.php
    20 more pages dedicated to each game (or games) that they list. Great read IMO.

    Here are the results for the lazy (in no particular order):

    1. Valkyrie Profile
    2. Final Fantasy 4/6/7 (yes, all 3 together)
    3. Xenogears
    4. Chrono Trigger
    5. Shadow Hearts Covenant
    6. Persona 3
    7. Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne
    8. Final Fantasy 8 (yes, another FF)
    9. Earthbound
    10. Grandia
    11. Final fantasy 12 (yet another FF)
    12. Dragon Quest 5
    13. Panzer Dragoon Saga
    14. Final Fantasy 10
    15. Skies of Arcadia
    16. Chrono Cross
    17. Phantasy Star 4 The End of the Millennium
    18. Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter
    19. Suikoden 2
    20. Street Fighter...actually it's Final Fantasy 5

    Seems like a good list, although I don't really like the way they treated the FF games.
     
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  2. Invisible Fan

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    I've played many games on the list and they're still memorable.
     
  3. fadeaway

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    No Star Ocean 2? Are you kidding me? That's arguably my favorite RPG ever, right up there with Skies of Arcadia and Chrono Trigger.
     
  4. Apollo Creed

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    They're a little overly critical on some games for a tribute piece. Especially when they start bashing SNES games because they couldn't convey proper emotion due to graphical limitations. I mean geez, come on.
     
  5. tinman

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    i like the japanese role playing game where your role is to be the champion of the world.
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  6. Apollo Creed

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    Okay tinman, you can hang out in this thread, but play nice with RPGs, so if you can't say anything nice...
     
  7. tinman

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    ok ok

    i did enjoy one of these type of games. this one was the best
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  8. Apollo Creed

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    Nice!

    Speaking of old school sega rpgs (not master system, but still)

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    Me and my freshmen roommate used to play that for hours on end. (4 yrs ago)
     
  9. tinman

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    apparently they remade the old phantasy stars back for ps2, but those bastards didn't release it in the states! damn you japanese!
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    the music was awesome for the old school game too:
    http://www.rpgclassics.com/shrines/sms/ps1/music/tower.mid

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    Was hoping that maybe he was just not counting it as a pure JRPG for some reason, but it looks like I'm wrong:
    Been a while since I played SO2 (or the Tales games), although I don't remember the battle systems being much of a problem (compared to other games anyway).
     
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    Chrono Trigger is hands down my favorite game of all time.

    I was about to ask why no Secret of Mana love, but I understand now. Makes sense, I guess.

    I'm a little sad and disappointed in myself for not having played a number of those titles. Unfortunately, a lot of them are hard to come by.
     
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    Grabbed the link off of Kotaku a couple of days ago. All that matters to me is that in the Earthbound section they mentioned Charles Barkley: Shut Up and Jam! Gaiden: Chapter 1 of the Hoopz Barkley Saga.
     
  14. CriscoKidd

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    I personally thought Shadow Hearts Covenant sucked. Ditto with skies of arcadia.

    Games I'm surprised that are on there: Grandia(love that game) FF8(not that it's on there, but that it's so high, still, I like the game), and BoF dragon quarter(I'm actually playing through the game right now and it IS awesome, but the save system is a pain in the ass).

    There's noteworthy ommisions, but eh, it's just some dudes opinion.
     
  15. SuperStar

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    Where's
    Secret of mana?
    Lufia?
    Shinning Force?
     
  16. Apollo Creed

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    I'm with you on 2 out of three...

    Lufia had some kickass puzzles, but those games were terrible.
     
  17. SuperStar

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    ops miss that bit about gameplay for secret of mana.
     
  18. chow_yun_fat

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    A pity Vagrant Story isn't on the list.
     
  19. RC Cola

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    The games aren't ranked. The numbers simply correspond to the order they appear in the article (intro on page 1, VP is first game listed, SMT Nocturne is 7th, FF5 is mentioned last). For all we know, FF5 is the author's favorite game and Valkyrie Profile just barely made the list.

    Shining Force would be out too, being a SRPG.

    Seems like Lufia II was one of the games that got bumped to make room for all the separate spots needed for Final Fantasy games.
     
  20. SuperStar

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    I love the story in Lufia. You start out as the first generation fighting the last boss on doom island and then you end the game as the second generation fighting the same last boss on doom island again!


    Friend was wondering wheres Vagrant Story! lol
     

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