how many players can you name that have gone from stars to scrubs in the last couple of years? (also not because of age, like ewing) jr rider and shawn kemp come to mind, what happened to their desire? ------------------ http://www.democrats.com mgh 1925-2001
kelvin cato went from preseason mega superstar to.... well.... whatever he is now not sure how many of these guys qualify as superstars per se, but anyway...(actually i guess its more like a list of busts) anfernee hardaway kenny anderson derrick coleman starks harold miner (baby jordan, HAH!) scottie pippen horace grant dale davis glen rice larry johnson ------------------ president of the sleepy floyd to hall of fame club. http://www.it-is-truth.org
Everyone on that list had injuries this season. They don't qualify. ------------------ "Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored."- (Aldous Huxley)
Robert Horry Not really a scrub, but then he never really was a star. ------------------ Behad Sergeant at Arms of the Clutch BBS
I dont know if this dude ever could be considered a star but you'd think he was one after the last offseason. Austin Croshere ------------------
What about Ed O'Bannon? You remember him... He came out of UCLA about 5 years ago. He was supposed to be awesome. Does anyone know where he is now? ------------------ Jeremy Audd Newman University Men's Basketball #14
Vin Baker ------------------ "You have to think optimistic. I think it's never over till it's over." - Clyde Drexler after losing at home to go down 3-1 to the Suns in '95
Tom Gugliotta was selected to the US Olympic Team and now he's not even a starter. ------------------ "You have to think optimistic. I think it's never over till it's over." - Clyde Drexler after losing at home to go down 3-1 to the Suns in '95
How about... Joe Smith - #1 pick overall, has never fulfilled his potential, and involved in screwing the T-Wolves out of a bunch of draft picks. Damon Stoudamire - The Mighty Mouse in Toronto, the underachiever in Portland. Michael Olowakandi - #1 pick overall and still not worth much. ------------------ "You have to think optimistic. I think it's never over till it's over." - Clyde Drexler after losing at home to go down 3-1 to the Suns in '95
I think they still qualify: Penny: Been injured, but he's fragile. Plus he's a whiner. Anderson: Been a scrub for many years now. Coleman: I wouldn't say he's a scrub. Great season last year; this year having some trouble but he may still bounce back. Starks: Has always been a role-player. Pippen: Total scrub ever since he left the Bulls. He's had some injuries this season, but he's been a scrub for years now. Rice: Same as Pippen, he's been a scrub since he left Charlotte. Johnson: Same as Rice, been a role-player since he left Charlotte. He's a pretty good role-player but has always been 3rd or 4th option in New York. ------------------ RealGM Gafford Art Artisan Cakes
Actually, he's been a scrub his entire career. Where would he be if there was no MJ? ------------------ "Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored."- (Aldous Huxley)
Well Gugliotta had a knee surgery or two and missed the entire first half of the season. I think he has been playing better of late. I don't know if he qualifies. ------------------ There are no stupid questions, only stupid people who ask questions.
He's playing for the L.A. team in the new ABA league, after a couple of years overseas. Probably the best cautionary example for anyone regarding Shane Battier. ------------------
When were they ever stars, they were just drafted too high by the respective teams. ------------------ "Repression never did me any harm (I finally ceased to include "stop masturbating" as one of my guilt ridden New Year's resolutions, but that's a different topic)." Achebe - programmer by day, Mrs Palmers Husband by night
Stoudamire was a pretty good player in toronto. Smith had a good rookie and sophomore season. 15,8 in rookie and 18,9 in sophomore. ------------------ Never Underestimate the Heart of a Champion
Smith and Stoudamire are great examples. They were 1-2 in the Rookie of the Year voting in '95-'96, if I remember it right. ------------------
So that is the best example of Battier after college basketball? Mango ------------------ Get it right or just don't do it! Resistance is futile....you will be assimilated.