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Francis’ Postgame Comments: Echoes of the Big O? You decide.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by CB4ever, Feb 25, 2003.

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  1. CB4ever

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    ``They were double- and triple-teaming the big fella,'' Francis said. ``As much as we wanted to get him the ball, I think he understood because they had so many arms and legs on him that we didn't really want to force it.''

    Innocuous? Truthful? Good enough? 'What Would Oscar Say' (WWOS ;)) after Abdul-Jabbar gets 2 shots in a win? Probably not that.

    Leadership. I want to see it. Not excuses. This is not about Yao Ming. If we had Amare Stoudemire and failed to get him involved, it would be just as wrong. Double teams, triple teams, he’s tired, he’s not aggressive, so many arms, legs, feet, fingers, toes, genital warts… blah, blah, blah. Excuses won’t win championships. If teams can force you into a dribbling, exclusive perimeter game, excuses will get you 30 wins and a couple of ping-pong balls.

    Francis #’s read like a Big O season average. 33/9/9. Great. I want that every night. I take 31 from Mobley every day of the week, too. Mostly I want accountability. Leadership.

    Is expecting too much from Francis? Is this Chinese bovine encephalitis? Shrug. I don’t care.

    WWOS? Try something like: ‘They focused on him today, but they do that everyday. Even though we won, it’s on me, no excuses. Our team needs his presence inside. Watch out Knicks, we’re going to shove him down your throat tomorrow night. I'll make sure of that.’

    The Big “L” word. The Big O had it. When will Francis get it?
     
    #1 CB4ever, Feb 25, 2003
  2. Oski2005

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    33/9/9 every night? If that is the case, along with Mobley averaging 31 every game, how would anybody else get the ball? Jeeze, you do know that Ming is a rookie, right? You know, even though he's all experienced from years of pro ball in China, he's facing the toughest competition on a regular basis for the first time in his life. There's no way we would win if Ming was the focus of the offense right now.
     
    #2 Oski2005, Feb 25, 2003
  3. nene

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    SHUT UP!!!!

    ENJOY THE JOURNEY.
     
    #3 nene, Feb 25, 2003
  4. Drewdog

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    another b**** thread.....

    when will it end??

    :rolleyes:
     
    #4 Drewdog, Feb 25, 2003
  5. CB4ever

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    He is? :eek: I take it all back. ;)
    That's not the objective. The point is that SF/Cat should get their #'s. They are the best players on this team. But do they make their teammates better? Do they instill the confidence to make them better? Do they lead?
     
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    I see. I know you meant to say "SF did lead tonight. He played with heart and he brought us back from the dead in a crucial game... all with a bad back."

    Good points. I agree with most. You know, you're smarter than you look. You should be ROY, sha-nene.
     
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    Indeed they do...you saw what happened tonight, Steve and Cat LEAD the Rockets from 15 back.
     
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  8. CB4ever

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    There you go, fatman510. Yes. With the game on the line our backcourt played balls out, earned a huge road win. Perfect.

    Now take the next step. Involve your weakest player. Put that on your shoulders. It worked for a certain Hall-of-Famer.
     
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  9. Roc Paint

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    Steve Francis was clutch tonight, along w/ Mobley. Our back court carried this team tonight with a very important win. I'll take it.

    Go Rockets!! :)
     
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    Who exactly is our weakest player? It does not seem to me that we have one guy off the bench who absolutely is much worse than anyone else. We have a well balanced team.
     
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    Tonight it was Y.M. because they tried to take him away. He's fronted, doubled? So solve the puzzle - reverse the ball, slash, give up a shot you could make to get him a shot in finishing position. Involve him. I'll wager you'd get more than 3 rebounds and 1 block out of him if you do.

    Other nights players like Posey, Griffin need pick-me-ups. Get them easy buckets. Make sure they feel the ball early. It pays dividends later in the game.
     
    #11 CB4ever, Feb 25, 2003
  12. rocketsball2003

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    eddie 3-10 posey 4-11 and you say yao was our weakest player??? he had 2-3 guys on him 99% of the time and the other 1% you saw on espn... francis and mobley gave those guys there share and what happened, yao could not get the ball, it happens some times but the other guys have to hit there open shots to make the other team pay so that it will open up the middle for yao... that is how you get yao the ball.. hit your open shots, or else the guy that is supposed to be on posey or griff are both on yao

    and francis and mobley hit 21-38..... some guys shoot that in one night(kobe)(AI)
     
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    I don't think they try hard enough to get Yao the ball...

    ...but there's nothing wrong with what Francis said, there. He indicated he knew Yao was important, and gave what he might have felt was a good reason for not getting him the ball. No reason for not believing him...

    ...the Rockets, as a team, need to be far more creative with Yao... but that's not really Francis' fault.

    Being a leader doesn't necessarily mean being perfect... or doing everything.
     
    #13 haven, Feb 25, 2003
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    Ironically, Celtic thought otherwise. They played a tight zone defense on Yao all night long, leaving our guards shooting the light out. Apparently Yao was our main offense to them. If they played only 1 on 1 on Yao, do you really think our guards would have such an easy shooting game. As a matter of fact, the way to defeat us is to play Yao 1 on 1. As long as you could push him out to 12-15 foot and force him to make a turnaways J, the rest of our offense will deteriate on its own, including our ISO plays.
     
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    Posey and Grffin took 21 shots in this game.... talk about not involving ur teamates.... I bet if they duwan to get them involve, they will be lucky to get just even 10 shots.....

    even Yao himself admit that he is having trouble downlow getting position for the pass...... Rudy T said that the game plan is to get Yao the ball but it is just too hard to do so....

    Francis fault? give that guy a break will ya? he is getting others involved..... his passes to Mobley for those clutch shots are not coincidence....
     
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    Here we go again analyzing every single word that Francis says.
     
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  17. Oski2005

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    Unless the Celtic guards were doing the double teaming, I doubt that Steve and Cuttino were left wide open. Is it possible, that they both just had really good games?
     
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    I do people believe that we can't have our cake and eat it too? It shouldn't be about "the offense needs to go through Ming, trade away the guards" or the "offense goes through the guards, trade Ming." It should be that we have 3 talented players who we can utilize. Maybe not always at the same time, but that doesn't mean we give up on our players.

    Hmm, I have a Hummer, a Porsche, and a Ferrari. The Hummer takes me to work, the Porsche is for fun, and the Ferrari is for picking up chicks. I can afford to all 3 of them, life is good. Well, maybe i should just stick to the Hummer, so I'll trade in my sports cars for a buss pass and lawn mower. Come on people, we have the future dynasty of the NBA here and all they need is some time. Give them 2 years, please. Everything that happened before these next 2 seasons is irrelevant.
     
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    disregard the previous post, i don't know how that ended up in this thread. I need sleep.
     
    #19 Oski2005, Feb 25, 2003
  20. rocketsball2003

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    you have got to be kicking me... steve took 18 shots cat took 20... thats not a lot of shots but they for the most part where open shots otherwise known as smart shots.

    has anyone ever heard of the phrase "a shooters job is to shoot" the cat and francis are both shooters, get over it
     
    #20 rocketsball2003, Feb 25, 2003
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