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[FoxNews] Drunk with Power, Spending Out of Control

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by tigermission1, Aug 27, 2005.

  1. tigermission1

    tigermission1 Member

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    I think as has been discussed here numerous times in the past, probably the most troubling thing to conservatives (real conservatives, not neocons) has been the utter fiscal irresponsibility of the Republican party. Many fiscal conservatives who espouse smaller government and less wasteful spending are royally pissed at the record-breaking deficits and irresponsible fiscal policies of our government. I think this goes well beyond who is in office, since Congress seems to be the biggest culprit here, and the President just happily goes along with it. I think the Republican party has lost its way when it comes to fiscal responsibility, and this article highlights it pretty well.

    This happens to be one of those pissed-off conservatives...

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,166682,00.html


    Drunk With Power, Spending Out of Control

    Thursday, August 25, 2005
    By Radley Balko


    The Washington Post reports that in 1987, President Ronald Reagan
    vetoed a transportation bill passed by Congress because it had 157
    "earmarks"— money set aside for Congress members' pet projects that
    would ostensibly be considered too wasteful to pass as laws on their
    own merit.

    Reagan made a show of his veto. It was a symbolic stroke against
    government waste, against the Democrats' tradition of, for example,
    diverting every federal highway through West Virginia, then naming it
    after Sen. Robert Byrd.

    Fast-forward to 2005. Republicans control the White House and both
    houses of Congress. Early on a Saturday morning in August — the day of
    the week, and the month of the year, least likely to attract media
    attention — President Bush signed into law a highway bill passed by
    his own party with more than 6,000 earmarked projects.

    Bush signed the bill after sternly telling his party he'd veto any
    highway bill that spent more than $256 billion. He promptly "adjusted"
    that figure to $284 billion after complaints from party leaders. The
    bill Bush ultimately signed came at a price of $286 billion, $295
    billion if you count a few provisions disguised to make the bill look
    cheaper than it actually is. Not exactly holding the line.

    The Republican Party's wholesale abandonment of limited government
    principles has been on display since President Bush took office.
    Government spending under the GOP's reign has soared to historic
    highs, any way you want to measure it. And in stark contrast to
    President Reagan — or even the president's own father—President Bush
    refuses to rein in spending. He hasn't used his veto a single time
    since taking office — the longest such streak in U.S. history.

    What continues to amaze, however, is the sheer arrogance and hubris
    with which the Republicans have chosen to govern. As Congressman Jeff
    Flake — one of the few principled Republicans in Washington — told the
    Washington Post, "Republicans don't even pretend anymore."

    Consider that highway bill. The bill calls for nearly half a billion
    dollars to build two bridges in Alaska. One will connect the Alaskan
    mainland with a tiny island called Gravina (population: 50). It will
    cost U.S. taxpayers $230 million. In fact, when it comes to pork
    barrel politics, Alaska is the new West Virginia. That's because
    Alaska Rep.Don Young chairs the transportation committee. The
    transportation bill is named after Young's wife. The second bridge the
    bill appropriates money for — another $230 million — will be called
    "Don Young Way."

    Robert Byrd would be proud.

    You'd think that a Republican like Young would at least be embarrassed
    about all of this. He isn't. He's shameless. Upon hearing that only
    one other lawmaker in the entire Congress had outdone him in securing
    pork barrel projects, Young told the New York Times, "I'd like to be a
    little oinker, myself. If he's the chief porker, I'm upset."

    Consider the case of Sen. Tom Coburn, another of the few in Congress
    willing to stand up to unrestrained spending. After a six-year career
    fighting waste in the House, Coburn won election to the Senate, and
    began putting administrative holds on his colleagues' wasteful
    projects. That didn't sit well with his fellow Republicans. Coburn's
    own party soon filed an ethics complaint against him.

    His transgression? Coburn continues his medical practice in Oklahoma
    in addition to his duties as a U.S. senator. That apparently, is a
    violation of Senate ethics. Diverting millions of taxpayer dollars to
    pet projects that bear one's name and help one get reelected is not an
    ethical violation, but practicing medicine is. The chairman of the
    Senate Ethics Committee who will hear Coburn's complaint is
    Mississippi Sen. Trent Lott. Lott recently told Roll Call that after
    30 years as a U.S. senator, he has learned how to work around pesky
    do-gooders like Coburn. "I fold [pork projects] into bills where you
    can't find them," Lott boasted. "I've been around here long enough to
    know how to bury it."

    But perhaps the single member of Congress most afflicted with
    arrogance-of-power syndrome is Virginia Rep. Tom Davis. Davis headed
    up the GOP's campaign to retain control of the House in 2004, and
    today chairs the House Government Reform Committee. Earlier this
    spring, it was Davis' committee that began investigating the use of
    steroids in Major League Baseball. Of course, Congress has no
    constitutional authority to tell a private organization what its rules
    ought to be. No matter. When MLB asked Davis what jurisdiction he had
    to hold hearings, Davis sent a letter in reply asserting that his
    committee has jurisdiction "at any time, over any matter." Any time,
    any matter. So much for limited government. And this from the chair of
    the committee in charge of keeping government in check!

    Davis later threatened sanctions against MLB if it allowed an
    ownership group, in which billionaire leftist George Soros held a
    minority stake, to purchase the Washington Nationals — a stunning,
    possibly illegal threat to impose legal sanctions against a private
    organization for doing business with someone Davis opposes
    politically. Just last month, Davis stuck a provision into a funding
    bill that would prohibit development of a housing complex in his home
    district. The congressman told Washington Post columnist Marc Fisher
    he feared "urban kind of people" moving into his district. This is
    exactly the kind of federal government edict over local affairs
    Republicans are supposed to oppose.

    Local officials told Fisher that Davis has said privately he fears too
    much development in his district will attract too many Democrats,
    which could one day imperil his reelection.

    Republicans swept into office in 1994 on a radical platform promising
    to dramatically scale back the federal government, bring
    accountability to Capitol Hill, and put a check on the power and
    arrogance that runs rampant in Washington. Today, they embody that
    power and arrogance.

    If you'll remember, it was Hillary Clinton's plan for universal health
    care that inspired much of the backlash that put the Republicans in
    power. Today, the leader of the Republican revolution — Newt Gingrich
    — has publicly aligned himself with Hillary Clinton to call for a
    larger government role in health care. That's about as apt a metaphor
    for what's happened to the "Republican Revolution" as any.
     
  2. Rocket River

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    It's only bad. . . if it is not your party doing it - Republicans

    Rocket River
     
  3. Nolen

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    (crickets chirping)
     
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    A truly excellent find, tigermission1. Thanks. This should be required reading for every Republican, in my opinion.

    Tell us, Republicans, what in the hell has happened to your party? How in the hell can you explain this? How in the hell can Bush go this far into a two term presidency and not have one veto?? With this kind of spending going on?

    Yes, pork has always been around on Capital Hill and, yes, Democrats have always had their hands in the trough, but this is beyond outrageous. Yet another example of the lies and weakness of George W. Bush, and the lies, weakness, and greed of the Republican Party Leadership.

    Republicans, take back your party from the extremists!!



    Keep D&D Civil!!
     
  5. Rocket River

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    Spend spend Spend


    Rocket River
     
  6. Dreamshake

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    NeoCons and their fiscal conservatism at its most shinning.



    Where is the defense of these comments and transgressions?


    Ill be waiting for the Hannity style spin in this thread to commence.
     
  7. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    The Neo-Cons are not about reduced spending. The most powerful person in the party is the President. The President sets the agenda and the legislature falls in line. Since the Neo-Cons control the executive, the agenda is going to be a Neo-Con agenda. When 2008 rolls around, the GOP might put a small government President in the White House, and then there will be a new agenda.
     
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    i wonder how texxx will defend/divert this thread....
     
  9. pippendagimp

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    Dubya has NEVER vetoed any spending bill while in office. And for good reason, short-term speaking at least. His administration's aim since the get-go has been to reflate the economy with mountains of borrowed credit and oceans of liquidity. In the short-term this practice has successfully averted a deep recession following the dot-com bust. Regarding the long-term, I shudder to mention the moribund ramifications that await us...
     
  10. RocketMan Tex

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    I'm sure the FOX employee who wrote this has been summarily lynched for writing anything bad about the Republican party and their beloved pResident.
     
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    *yawn*
     
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    This article pretty much sums up how conservatives feel these days.

    Non-military federal spending has risen faster under Bush than it did under Clinton. I suppose the GOP right now embodies the true spirit of the voting public - cut taxes and spend more.

    Lower military budget is politcal suicide. Tax increases are political suicide. Medicare cuts, education cuts, et. al. - all politically disastrous. I don't know but maybe democracy can't work in the long run.

    Maybe the Democrats can outflank the Republicans and put a fiscal conservative out there in 2008. It seems to me that the Democratic party doesn't really have a strong, central message and perhaps a shift in policy priorities can be made at this time. A lot of my Republican friends are not happy with GW and would be willing to switch sides for the right person.

    I don't think either parties really have central core values anyways - but care more about winning - even if it means changing you stripes.
     
  13. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse (generous benefits) from the public treasury."

    "From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising them the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship."

    - Professor Alexander Fraser Tytler
     
  14. langal

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    COol. Good quote. Amazing that this guy lived in the 1700's (i googled him).

    I think all the "Western developed" democracies run government deficits (?).
     
  15. ragingFire

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    A good quote except it might have come from anonymous source.
    http://www.geocities.com/nerolsnilloc/library/tytler.html
     

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