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Fox News Up Double Digits

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by MojoMan, Feb 3, 2010.

  1. MojoMan

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    Not that anyone should be surprised, but the American people are tuning into to Fox News in record numbers. Certainly some degree of credit for that achievement must be given to President Obama and the Democratic leaders in Congress. Without their devotion to rapidly increasing government spending and the national debt, and the promotion of programs that are alarmingly to the left of the will of people, Fox News continuing route of the other cable news channels would probably not be happening t the extent that it obviously is.

    Meanwhile, MSNBC has fallen back into third place behind CNN.

    [RQUOTER]Still Rolling: Fox News Has Its Best January Ever

    Fox News had its best January in the history of the network, and was the only cable news network to grow year-to-year.

    FNC also had the top 13 programs on cable news in total viewers for the fifth month in a row, and the top 13 programs in the A25-54 demographic for the first time in more than five years.

    FNC grew in double digits in both total viewers and the A25-54 demographic from January 2009. In prime time, it was up 22% in total viewers and 51% in the demo. CNN was down 34% and 37% and MSNBC down 26% and 38%. In total day, FNC was up 16% and 28%. CNN was down 34% and 41% and MSNBC down 28% and 39%. Last January all networks performed while with the Inauguration coverage. This month, the big political event was Scott Brown’s victory in Massachusetts, which FNC dominated in the ratings.[/RQUOTER]
     
  2. moestavern19

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    All the dirty Liberals are too busy fornicating and abusing illegal substances to watch silly news channels.

    HAVE YOU EVER SEEN THE HISTORY CHANNEL MAN?


    Oh man. Theres some crazy **** on there man...

    Did you know that Nostradamus predicted the Michael Jackson Trial?


    WHOA!
     
  3. SamFisher

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    This post is addressed to the individual posting as clutchfans.net user MojoMan.

    Excellent news, I hope this trend continues.

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  4. finalsbound

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    yeah, the american people also watch reality television in droves...which should say something about the average viewer.
     
  5. kpsta

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    "MojoMan is reduced to a thin red paste."
     
  6. MojoMan

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    Obviously, that chart is BS.

    Republicans currently lead the Democrats in the generic ballot 45-43. Here is link to an average of the Generic Congressional Vote.

    But you should keep your hopes up. There is still nine months until the November mid-term elections. Things could still improve for the Democrats over that period. Perhaps Obama will have gotten things turned around by then.
     
  7. Depressio

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    Pandering fear is very profitable. See: Rush Limbaugh.
     
  8. SamFisher

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    This post is addressed to the individual posting as clutchfans.net user MojoMan.

    Here is a poll indicating that Werewolves are more popular than Zombies
    http://www.majorspoilers.com/archives/8646.htm/
    Here is a poll that suggests that Fox News ratings advance in tandem with Republican unfavorability.

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    Did you see what I did there? Can you explain to me why it's similar to what you did there? Thanks :)
     
  9. DonnyMost

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    Limbaugh was never more popular than during the Clinton heyday.

    Obama has woken up slumbering, witless, conservative rant-machines that were asleep at the wheel 2000-2008.

    Not surprised.

    The moment a Rep gets into the oval office, watch the numbers dip again.
     
  10. Faos

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    This should be interesting:

    http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/02/02/stewart-to-appear-on-oreilly-factor/

    Stewart to Appear on ‘O’Reilly Factor’

    By BRIAN STELTER

    Fake news meets Bill O’Reilly this week, when Jon Stewart, the host of “The Daily Show,” appears on “The O’Reilly Factor” on the Fox News Channel.

    Fox News knows it has a hot interview: it is showing the interview over two nights, Wednesday and Thursday.

    Fox says in a press release that “the wide-ranging interview will touch on an array of topics, including President Obama, the political landscape and media bias.”

    In his only previous appearance on “The O’Reilly Factor,” in 2004, Mr. Stewart was promoting a new book, “America (The Book): A Citizen’s Guide to Democracy Inaction.”

    “You know what’s really frightening? You actually have an influence on this presidential election,” Mr. O’Reilly said in that conversation with Mr. Stewart. “You got stoned slackers watching your dopey show every night, O.K., and they can vote. You can’t stop them!”

    On this week’s visit, it is unclear if Mr. Stewart is promoting anything other than “The Daily Show.”
     
  11. Major

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    The mistake you make is assuming Congress represents people's party support. If you look at the state levels, you get a much different story:

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/125450/P...GOP-Gains-States-Remain-Blue.aspx?CSTS=tagrss

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    People don't like Congress. The Dems are in charge of Congress; therefore, people want to vote them out. But don't mistake that with people liking the GOP.
     
  12. Deji McGever

    Deji McGever יליד טקסני

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    Sam, don't try to misrepresent the poll's findings. You completely ignored the fact that Vampires were included in the poll, while not as popular as Werewolves, rank well above Zombies.

    Clearly your Werewolf bias is showing, and I'm sorry, but this blatant intellectual dishonesty calls into question the validity of any argument you've ever made.
     
  13. Rashmon

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    This seems like as good a place as any for this particular article. Actually, Fox news contributes to the problem.

    Why do people vote against their own interests?

    The Republicans' shock victory in the election for the US Senate seat in Massachusetts meant the Democrats lost their supermajority in the Senate. This makes it even harder for the Obama administration to get healthcare reform passed in the US.

    Political scientist Dr David Runciman gives his view on why there is often such deep opposition to reforms that appear to be of obvious benefit to voters.

    Last year, in a series of "town-hall meetings" across the country, Americans got the chance to debate President Obama's proposed healthcare reforms.

    What happened was an explosion of rage and barely suppressed violence.

    Polling evidence suggests that the numbers who think the reforms go too far are nearly matched by those who think they do not go far enough.

    But it is striking that the people who most dislike the whole idea of healthcare reform - the ones who think it is socialist, godless, a step on the road to a police state - are often the ones it seems designed to help.

    In Texas, where barely two-thirds of the population have full health insurance and over a fifth of all children have no cover at all, opposition to the legislation is currently running at 87%.

    Anger

    Instead, to many of those who lose out under the existing system, reform still seems like the ultimate betrayal.

    Why are so many American voters enraged by attempts to change a horribly inefficient system that leaves them with premiums they often cannot afford?

    Why are they manning the barricades to defend insurance companies that routinely deny claims and cancel policies?

    It might be tempting to put the whole thing down to what the historian Richard Hofstadter back in the 1960s called "the paranoid style" of American politics, in which God, guns and race get mixed into a toxic stew of resentment at anything coming out of Washington.

    But that would be a mistake.

    If people vote against their own interests, it is not because they do not understand what is in their interest or have not yet had it properly explained to them.

    They do it because they resent having their interests decided for them by politicians who think they know best.

    There is nothing voters hate more than having things explained to them as though they were idiots.

    As the saying goes, in politics, when you are explaining, you are losing. And that makes anything as complex or as messy as healthcare reform a very hard sell.

    Stories not facts

    In his book The Political Brain, psychologist Drew Westen, an exasperated Democrat, tried to show why the Right often wins the argument even when the Left is confident that it has the facts on its side.

    He uses the following exchange from the first presidential debate between Al Gore and George Bush in 2000 to illustrate the perils of trying to explain to voters what will make them better off:

    Gore: "Under the governor's plan, if you kept the same fee for service that you have now under Medicare, your premiums would go up by between 18% and 47%, and that is the study of the Congressional plan that he's modelled his proposal on by the Medicare actuaries."

    Bush: "Look, this is a man who has great numbers. He talks about numbers.

    "I'm beginning to think not only did he invent the internet, but he invented the calculator. It's fuzzy math. It's trying to scare people in the voting booth."

    Mr Gore was talking sense and Mr Bush nonsense - but Mr Bush won the debate. With statistics, the voters just hear a patronising policy wonk, and switch off.

    For Mr Westen, stories always trump statistics, which means the politician with the best stories is going to win: "One of the fallacies that politicians often have on the Left is that things are obvious, when they are not obvious.

    "Obama's administration made a tremendous mistake by not immediately branding the economic collapse that we had just had as the Republicans' Depression, caused by the Bush administration's ideology of unregulated greed. The result is that now people blame him."

    Reverse revolution

    Thomas Frank, the author of the best-selling book What's The Matter with Kansas, is an even more exasperated Democrat and he goes further than Mr Westen.

    He believes that the voters' preference for emotional engagement over reasonable argument has allowed the Republican Party to blind them to their own real interests.

    The Republicans have learnt how to stoke up resentment against the patronising liberal elite, all those do-gooders who assume they know what poor people ought to be thinking.

    Right-wing politics has become a vehicle for channelling this popular anger against intellectual snobs. The result is that many of America's poorest citizens have a deep emotional attachment to a party that serves the interests of its richest.

    Thomas Frank says that whatever disadvantaged Americans think they are voting for, they get something quite different:

    "You vote to strike a blow against elitism and you receive a social order in which wealth is more concentrated than ever before in our life times, workers have been stripped of power, and CEOs are rewarded in a manner that is beyond imagining.

    "It's like a French Revolution in reverse in which the workers come pouring down the street screaming more power to the aristocracy."

    As Mr Frank sees it, authenticity has replaced economics as the driving force of modern politics. The authentic politicians are the ones who sound like they are speaking from the gut, not the cerebral cortex. Of course, they might be faking it, but it is no joke to say that in contemporary politics, if you can fake sincerity, you have got it made.

    And the ultimate sin in modern politics is appearing to take the voters for granted.

    This is a culture war but it is not simply being driven by differences over abortion, or religion, or patriotism. And it is not simply Red states vs. Blue states any more. It is a war on the entire political culture, on the arrogance of politicians, on their slipperiness and lack of principle, on their endless deal making and compromises.

    And when the politicians say to the people protesting: 'But we're doing this for you', that just makes it worse. In fact, that seems to be what makes them angriest of all.

    Published: 2010/01/30 00:57:43 GMT

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8474611.stm
     
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  14. Depressio

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    This is one of the most f**ked up thing I've ever read. I have obviously severely underestimated the stupidity of the general American population.

    What's next? People resenting doctors for diagnosing their illnesses? Or resenting technicians who tell them what's wrong with their computers? If we shouldn't have politicians decide on policies, we might as well scrap the entire system and make laws by popular votes. A true democracy.
     
  16. rhadamanthus

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    This already happens. Google the recent wave of folks resisting immunizations or relying on herbal medicines. This is all symptomatic of a general american mindset that resists being labeled "lower class" even if its the honest-to-god truth. No one wants to admit that they cannot afford medical care, but the bat**** crazy folks then take this the extra step and resist free health care out of the ideology that the offer is "insulting" or a "hand out". Shoot themselves in the foot over and over... These are the same folks making 25k/yr and complaining about extra taxes on those making >250k/yr. The joe the plumbers of modern america - convinced they are owed more than they get, and worth more than they earn.

    There was a great article about this mentality posted here some time ago - but I cannot find it.
     
  17. The Real Shady

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    Do you know when sports radio stations have their highest ratings? It's when fans are pissed and want to vent about something.

    Having a democrat president is great for Fox News as much as they don't want to admit it. I'm sure that the left political shows had their best ratings during the Bush administration.
     
  18. B-Bob

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    This is a great post. I've always thought Limbaugh, for example, owes his vast fortunes to Clinton's 8-year presidency.
     
  19. Shooter3

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    how have obama's programs gone so far to the left? he won the presidency running in support of a public option. the public options long gone. i can't think of anything that he has gone to the left on off hand. he's mostly moved towards the right if you ask me.
     
  20. Major

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    Not only that, Nixon's proposed national health care plan was actually far more left than Obama's is.
     

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