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Forget VY for a second, how good is Reggie Bush?

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Rileydog, Feb 24, 2006.

  1. Rileydog

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    How does he compare, as a prospect, to Ronnie Brown and Cadillac Williams?

    My general impression is that Reggie Bush is a vastly superior prospect than Brown or Williams. If that's the case, then (in a vaccuum, a world without VY) he's a legit No 1 pick.

    I'm just trying to adjust my thinking b/c I'm starting to get the feeling that Reggie's coming, whether we like it or not.
     
  2. Baqui99

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    Bush's biggest strengths are his quickness to the outside and his open field moves. In those areas, he's superior to Brown, Benson, and Cadillac. Also, he's a better pass catcher and can be utilized in multiple sets.

    But Bush is not as complete as any of the 2005 top RBs. Those guys are better blockers and are not afraid to run in between the tackles. Benson carried the ball 25-30 times a game at Texas, and actually got stronger as the game moved on. In addition the 2005 backs are all more adept at moving the chains on short yardage situations. This is another area that Bush must improve.
     
  3. The Real Shady

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    He's one of the highest rated RB prospects ever. ESPN Insider has a grade on players coming into the draft on a 1-99 scale with 99 being the highest. This is how they grade the prospects coming out this year.

    Reggie Bush 99
    D'Brick Ferguson 98
    Matt Leinart 98
    Vince Young 97
    Mario Williams 97
    AJ Hawk 97
    Michael Huff 96
    Vernon Davis 96
    Jay Cutler 96
    Deangelo Williams 96

    http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/insider/columns/story?columnist=mcshay_todd&id=2338318
     
  4. KAS13

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    Ridiculous comment. Bush is not as complete as any of the 2005 RB's? Are you serious. He's quicker, faster, a better receiver and probably the best blocker (I don't know where you got he wasn't a good blocker from) of the whole group. Bush has stated he wants to be a full time back. How can you infer that he's afraid to run in between the tackles. Makes no sense. Brown and Williams were good backs, Benson sucked (even when he played). Reggie isn't a short yardage back though (neither is Cadillac).
     
  5. Baqui99

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    Bush was definitely the better college back, no question. But his durability and ability to wear down defenses is definitely a BIG question mark. He almost never ran between the tackles at USC, as most of his carries were to the outside. That speed can get around the corner in college, but will it get it done against NFL quality LBs? Probably not. If he could, then he would've gotten the ball, and not Lendale, on 4th and 2.
     
  6. gucci888

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    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=107174

    This needs to be merged for sure.

    KAS- So what if he says he wants to be a full time back? I want to be the Rocket's GM, but it's gonna take a lot more than just talking.

    There's a difference between saying you want to run between the tackles and actually doing it. Bush almost never ran through the tackles at USC, please go back and watch the games if possible. Carroll used Bush's speed to the outside quite a bit as he should. A lot of off-tackle runs were bounced outside by Bush.

    How can you say Benson sucked (even when he played) when he almost never played? I believe he had like 70+ yards in 3 quarters before the game he got hurt.
     
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    If Dominick Davis can run between the tackles for 1,000+ yards his first 2 years, just think what Bush can do. Davis isn't exactly a bruiser.

    Just give Bush a tiny seam and he's gone. You can't say that about DD.
     
  8. RocketFan007

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    I don't know why everyone questions his durability. Bush NEVER missed a game at USC.
     
  9. DonnyMost

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    If the Texans draft Bush, my biggest hope is that he can be the second coming of Marshall Faulk.

    His offensive dynamic makes everyone better.. that is rare for a running back.. but when you find it, it is gold jerry, GOLD!
     
  10. Baqui99

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    That's because he rarely carried the ball more than 20 times a game.
     
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    Davis is two inches shorter and 20 pounds heavier than Bush. He's got alot more beef than Bush, which helps him run between the tackles effectively.
     
  12. RocketFan007

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    But he almost always had 20+ touches a game.
     
  13. KAS13

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    Someone posted a video here that showed him hitting the holes in between tackles and then breaking it outside. He can do it. He just didn't need too. Yao can hit 10 ft jumpers with consistency but if you could give him al ayup every time wouldn't you? He's never missed a game, so your durability comment goes out the window. In terms of his ability to wear down defenses we have no idea. The fact that he can be an effective receiver and rb should wear out defenses just fine. Lendale is a bruising back who's better in short situation. Brandon Jacobs isn't as good as Tikie barkber but he got a lot of short yardage carries. Same with Duckett and Dunn. Lendale is also a first round pick. There's no shame in giving carries to a guy that talented.
     
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    I've argued that Bush can't hit the tackles...but he's worked out with LT and realized that he REALLY needs to step it up to get to be a pro. Yes, he didn't run between the tackles much, but why would you do that in college if you have that kind of back already in Lendale? I don't mind getting Bush (it's a win-win situation to be a Texans fan, quite honestly), and I do think he has the drive and work ethic to become a great back.
     
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    Which means there's very little wear and tear on his body.
     
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    Bush is much quicker and has break away speed. He'll be running through the same holes as DD, but he'll just hit them faster.

    DD isn't exactly Jerome Bettis. I don't remember him bowling over too many linebackers the last few years.
     
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    Bush doesn't need to rush more than 20 times a game with Davis and Wells.
     
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    Name me some college running backs who consistently carry the ball more than 20 times per game.
     
  19. KAS13

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    That's not more then just talking. Reggie Bush has the potential to be a full time back. You have no chance of being hte Rocket GM, that's way out in left field.

    I'm not saying he did it all the time but there was no need for him to do it. The dude averaged 9 yds a carry. If you were his coach would you have told him to start running in between the tackles?

    He held out, supposedly had a poor work ethic and didn't look good when i saw him on the field (granted it was only like two games). I I don't think Benson is going ot be a good pro. Roy Williams i think will be a superstar 9if they give him a QB) but not Benson.
     
  20. RocketFan007

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    He breaks a TON of tackles, the first guy to get to him rarely makes the tackle
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