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For all those who think Mobley is as good as Francis

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by pgabriel, Feb 2, 2004.

  1. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I hope this game ends your madness. I know some of our smarter posters on this site really believe that Mobley is only a slightly better version of Cuttino Mobley and I just don't understand what you guys are thinking.

    First:

    A lot of you guys think Mobley is more of a leader than Francis. Well Mobley had his chance to lead the Rockets against the worst team in the conference playing without its best player. And what has Mobley done, zilch. This guy just had the nerve to be the subject of a feature story in the Houston Chronicle about wanting to be a star. Well tonight was a perfect opportunity, bone headed decision by the leader to get himself suspended, playing the worst team in the Conference. No one stepped up for the Rockets, and Mobley had the prime opportunity against a wounded dog.

    Second:

    Mobley doesn't make teams game plan for him. Mobley benefits from others' presence on the court. Francis makes it easier for teamates. Yao makes it easier on teamates. Second rate players make no difference for his teamates. Who was Mobley being guarded by tonight? Joe Johnson. Come on guys, Mobley should be lighting this guy up and causing a mismatch if you really think he's a step below Francis's caliber. He didn't cause any match up problems tonight, didn't cause any double teams and was just another piece in the machine. Why, because he doesn't do anything special.

    His shooting is average, his passing is below average, and his ball handling is below average. And without a guy taking preasure off of him, the defense makes it really tough on him. He can only create shots one on one and if he doesn't have free reign because of another player taking up the team's focus, Mobley is exposed.

    I know this is only one game, and the shock of the situation took its toll on the team, but even when the Rockets made a run at the end of the first half, Mobley wasn't involved. This was his time to shine and he didn't.
     
  2. sup123

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    francis also has below shooting, ball handling skills, passing. THere both garbage.
     
  3. silentfan

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    Well, Joe Johnson is a very good player. He's been playing behind Marbury and Marion and never had a chance to show what he could do. When he was in Boston it looked like they were going to use for as an integral part of that team then they stopped using him and let him rot on the bench. I've been watching him since he was at Arkansas and this kid is for real. He's got the smooth touch, height, and good ball handling skills. A few years from now he'll be a star. You heard it here first.
     
  4. AMS

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    Who exactly is good in your books...


    Good post pgabriel
     
  5. sup123

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    lol, no one for now, im just made about these 4 losses in a row!!! Memphis is now ahead of us.
     
  6. fietguy

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    i think we should all deal with this issue right now...

    it boggles the mind why anybody would think Mobley 'is the most consistent rocket this year'...this guy is as streaky as they come...

    he doesn't know how to pass and only slightly less likely to turn it over than steve...

    i think he is too small to Dup up slightly bigger guys...

    oh but wait,he has a good contract, so we'll just keep him for another couple of seasons and watch his selfish ball...
     
  7. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    Yep. He had an off game, so he must be garbage. Steve scored only 4 points in a game earlier this season, he must be worse than Mike Wilks. :rolleyes:
     
  8. AMS

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    And Hakeem was held scoreless in Dallas. Yep Even Jason Collier did better than that.:eek:
     
  9. Severe Rockets Fan

    Severe Rockets Fan Takin it one stage at a time...

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    You weren't so loud in the beginning of the season when he was shooting 25% from the field. Hell, every Suns fan wanted to trade him 20-30 games into the season, now everyone's on his jock. Joe Johnson is TERRIBLY inconsistent. He's been doing well with the coaching change and the roster change, but he'll fall into his old ways once the newness wears off, you heard that here first. Anyways...

    This is easily the most disappointing loss of the season. The Suns suck and our whole team looked like they ALL went out last night. Horrible horrible effort. Also, I thought Yao was suppose to have this high IQ...What the hell is he passing up open shot after open shot just so he can get it to a worse shooter? Does the doofus just not think? Jim Jackson is a straight up stud, other than him this whole team can go to the crapper. Yao included. :mad:
     
  10. okierock

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    Cats stats tonight look like Steve's season average.:(
     
  11. Clutch

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    Give credit to Mobley for atleast showing up... which is not something you can say for Francis. I'm also pretty confident that if Francis put up an identical game in the same situation (meaning Mobley had bailed on his teammates), he would be defended to the death by you with that monster-sized chip on your shoulder.

    With that said, the Rockets just have to make some kind of change - period. Something. They are in huge trouble right now (where has the defense gone?) and frankly I'm starting to doubt Mobley's value around the league. The Rockets better get a good grip on this situation and fast.
     
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    Okay...don't anybody buy any green bananas, the Appocalypse is officially upon us.

    :D
     
  13. silentfan

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    Why would i talk about a suns player on a rockets messageboard besides after a game between the two? Most people who's "on his jock" didn't watch him play college or even high school ball. I did.
     
  14. SmeggySmeg

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    clutch is spot on..... where has the D gone???

    for me that is the key, if we can't shut down a perimeter group of Marion, Barbosa and J Johnson how the hell are we going shut down quality perimeter players when they have big men with post games to go with them......
     
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    So many holes, every player on this team has their good points but I also think that they all have just as many bad points and when couple that with the fact that their talents do not mesh together on the court and it amounts to some of the ugliest basketball I have ever seen.

    One step forward is quickly followed by atleast three in the wrong direction. Things must get better by any means nescessary.
     
  16. xiki

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    A move may be requisite, and may even occur. But if it is a panic move look for the Rox to keep this year's #1 pick because it just might be a LottoLand selection. These guys need the ASG break today!

    I believe Cat is marketable, and could bring back a prize. However, the team's balance (sic) would be affected unless the newcomer is a 3, or if others are directly or indirectly involved.

    From a marketability perspective Jimmy Jax is probably the most tradable, but would be a big loss if dealt.

    Cat and Cato are marketable, IMO. MoT is not. Yao would not be put out there.

    Stevie needs to find a system befitting his talents, and a team needing his skills. Chicago, Seattle, Boston, NJ, and Orlando all come to mind. Somewhere there is a deal to be made which benefits Stevie and/or Cat and/or Cato AND THE ROX and their trading partner.

    Find it, or them.
     
  17. Life2Def

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    Well at least Cat showed up to the battle field while Steve said go on without me, I got more important things to tend too and I'll be there when I feel like it.
     
  18. Life2Def

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    Chicago would be the last place Steve would end up, Skiles benched Jamaal Crawford for shooting too much what do you think he'll do with Steve. If the Rockets do trade it will be to an eastern conference team because I'm sure the Rockets don't want to see Steve four times a year.
     
  19. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I never said Mobley wasn't a good player. I agree with people who think he's a good player for what he gets paid. I just don't see any more potential than what he has shown. I knew I would get blasted for posting this after one game, but Mobley had a chance to carry this team when Steve when Steve was out for a lot of the season two years ago. He's a good scorer and average defender but he doesn't change games.
     
  20. xiki

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    I have no insight into whether there is consideration about moving him.

    SF's game, starting with back-to-back All Star starts, puts him in a different classification from Crawford. Da Bulls need some cred. Include Chandler and I'd listen, if I were the Rox' braintrust.

    West? Why not Seattle? Apparently Shard has desires to be near home after death earlier this season. Barry and Lewis for Steve and Pike? Why not?

    But, in virtually any trade eventuality with Stevie, either Cato or Cat would have to be moved somewhere, too, to rebalance the roster depending on who comes to

    roost in

    Houston.
     

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