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Florida Decision

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Jeff, Nov 21, 2000.

  1. Jeff

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    This just in:

    The court unanimously decided that the vote count must continue and must be accepted until November 26 at 6pm or November 27 at 9am if the office is closed before 6pm the previous evening.

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  2. TheFreak

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    The Florida Supreme Court consists entirely of Democratic appointees.

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  4. Achebe

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    TheFreak:

    start ironing your bullsheite out now. In 4 years it'll actually be convincing.

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    outlaw,

    You really just made my day. Thank you very, very, very much! [​IMG]

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  6. Jeff

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    Me too. That was hilarious!!!

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  7. Launch Pad

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    Actually, I believe it's 5 Democrat appointees and 2 Republicans. Nevertheless, the decision was unanimous.


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    I guess some ballot counters are going to miss the holidays after all. I believe a couple of those counties was going to give people Thanksgiving off. Now really, only Broward could be done without going through the Holiday.

    The question I have, though, is that if a recount is legal and must be accepted AND that the dimpled ballots should be counted, shouldn't we then count all the counties and some other close states? I mean, there are probably many dimpled ballots in other counties and states that aren't being counted.

    Another thing I am surprised about: How often as people keep noting Texas law in regard to this Florida standard. I wasn't aware that Texas law covered other states. I now want to run for the Legislature so I can write laws that affect Oklahoma. My first law will be "All people in Oklahoma have to hop on one foot at all times". I imagine I'll have more later.

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  9. Launch Pad

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    mrpaige,

    Are you referring to the Texas law that supports hand recounts as the more accurate assessment of voter intent? If so, then it's very relevant in pointing out the hypocrisy of how ardently Dubya and his campaign staff have opposed the "inaccuracy" and "unfairness" of hand recounts in Florida.

    Of course, this is the guy who ran on the idea that he "trusts people" (unless of course, it requires something complex like counting). [​IMG]

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    I'm talking about people being asked about Florida laws and Florida rules and coming back with what Texas law says. If the subject is George W. Bush's hypocracy, then it's fair game, but when the question is "Why should Florida count dimpled chads?" the correct answer isn't "Well, Texas law says...." because Texas law is pretty darn irrelevant in regards to what the Florida law is.

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  11. jamcracker

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    Florida law never explicitly mentions how to interpret dimpled chads, or any other kinds of chads.

    So, the FL supreme court looked for ideas from other states. For intstance, the Texas law saying dimpled chads should count. For instance, the Illinois supreme court case saying dimpled chads should count. Because there was no FL precedent, and no FL law on the books, the FL supreme court ended up quoting the Illinois supreme court interpretation in their decision.
     
  12. SpEnCeR

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    They are going to keep counting ballots until Gore wins. I don't know about anyone else but I am sick of Al Gore. And I voted for him originally! I don't know what the hell I was thinking because now he is ticking me off. If I had it again I would vote G.W. all the way. Luckly it doesn't matter in TX. Anyways, I just hope Gore still loses after all of this.

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  13. mrpaige

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    Wasn't talking about the Court. I was talking about the talking heads who have been citing Texas law for several days in response to the question. It didn't just start tonight. Their whole point is to bring up the hypocracy of GWB, but when someone asks a question, the answer should actually be relevant. Taking it off into new directions simply to chastise the opponent is not the way I think these people should do it (in any case. I'm not just talking about this situation alone). It just tends to make viewers upset. Constant attacks are not good no matter where they come from.

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    Why does everyone keep bringing up the concept of Bush trusting the people. It's one thing to "trust the people" and something entirely different to entrust the outcome of the election to politically motivated people engaged in a somewhat subjective process. Democrats wouldn't do that if the tables were turned, right?

    I've got an idea: Why don't we simply parrot every lame slam on the guy we don't like and strut around like we've spouted wisdom that ought to have everyone bowed in awe before us?

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    What do you think will happen first in Florida?

    1.Election results are finalized

    2.Magic become top seed in East

    3.Zo plays ball

    4.Jaguars go over .500

    5.Keyshawn writes a book "Just Give My Teammates the Damn Ball"

    6.Doc Rivers changes his name to Doc Strangelove

    7.Chris Weinke leaves college

    8.Dolphins replace logo with a gold fish cracker

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    Dubya could have done that, but he didn't want to. I wonder why ? Maybe he was too busy picking out his cabinet ? I remember "algore" offering him the chance, but dubya said no. He has Florida in the bag.


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    But those were under different rules. You can't argue on one hand that the recounts should be stopped and then ask for recounts for the rest of the state. The strategy has to change with the circumstances.

    Besides, VP Gore doesn't really have the power to order counties to take up manual recounts. Since the statuatory deadline has passed for Bush to ask for the handcounts, the court would have to rule that these counts must be undertaken. Just because Gore says it's okay, doesn't mean that the law will be overturned and the counting will start.

    I meant it more on the Supreme Court level anyway. Their ruling says the hand counts must be included in the totals and went on and on about the will of the people being paramount, shouldn't they have then decided that the will of the people in the other 64 counties was paramount, too? I mean, if you're going to make a decision, shouldn't your decision have an internal logic and be consistent?

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  18. TheFreak

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    The court is all Democrats.

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    TheFreak,

    I think it was the great danilo that said something along the lines "you're so misinformed, no wonder you're a republican".

    The court mentioned in its brief that a recount of the entire state may have been appropriate, but noone asked for it. In fact, the anti-anything but Bush side, argued against manual recounts on their behalf in the f@#$ing court room.

    Your side has a completely invalid argument on this and deep down I suspect you really know it. Your posts are funny though, so thanks. The sad thing is is that you guys will have your ranting, illogical forces out believing that they've been robbed by a local non-partisan process. Or doesn't anyone have respect for State Supreme Court Justices anymore?
     
  20. SamCassell

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    The Florida Supreme Court grants relief based on what is asked of it. If the Republicans didn't ask for a statewide recount, or didn't preserve the appeal by asking the trial court to do so, then there's no internal inconsistancy in the decision issued. Of course, added to that is the fact that time is somewhat of the essence at this point, in terms of the state nominating its electors. These few counties have already started recounts, while the others have not.

    Dubya and his people are planning on appealing this to the US Supreme Court. I think that decision was rash and unfortunate. Does anyone else agree?

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