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Flags of Our Fathers

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Ottomaton, Jan 18, 2006.

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How do you feel about Clint Eastwood telling the story from the enemy's viewpoint?

  1. Clint is just another Hollywood p***y. The Japanese don't need their story told. They were evil.

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  2. If it's cool with Dirty Harry, it's OK with me. We need to understand all viewpoints.

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  3. Who the hell cares?/What is a movie?/Where is Iwo Jima?

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  1. Ottomaton

    Ottomaton Member
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    Ok, here's the deal. Clint Eastwood is directing a two part film based on a book of the same name about the Raising of the U.S. Flag at Iwo Jima.

    The interesting part is the way the film is divided. The 1st and 2nd parts aren't split along chronological lines. Instead, the first part is told from the American viewpoint and the second from the Japanese.

    Personally, I can't think of another major American film told from Japanese viewpoint, though there have been several from the German view, and I definately can't think of any other story on such an emotionally charged subject told from different views.
     
  2. KingCheetah

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    I loved the way Neil Stephenson flipped back and forth between the Japanese and the US in Cryptonomicon ~ so IMHO it's great Clint is doing this and giving perspective from both sides. Certainly Clint Eastwood has the green light to do whatever the hell he wants anyway.
     
  3. SwoLy-D

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    Man, I don't like Mr. Eastwood's raspy, old man voice. I don't want him to tell NO STORY. F*nk that!
     
  4. bigtexxx

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    Well, every single one of the Japanese soldiers on the island died in that battle, so it might be somewhat of an anticlimactic ending.
     
  5. mc mark

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    Wasn't "Tora Tora Tora" told somewhat from the Japanese viewpoint?

    A great film!
     
  6. Saint Louis

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    The Japs thought they were fighting for a noble cause, and they didn't want to seem sympathetic to the enemy.
     
  7. Invisible Fan

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    Anything put on Hollywood will be contorted and mutilated for box office glory.

    If Clint tries to humanize the Japanese Army for Oscar contention, he's going to hear a mouthful from the Chinese government....
     
  8. Sishir Chang

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    Memoirs of a Geisha.
     
  9. Sishir Chang

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    You are aware that calling someone Japanese a "Jap" is about on par with calling someone black "Ni^^er"
     
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    I'm waiting for the barrage of invective that will come from Chinese posters here.
     
  11. wouldabeen23

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    What a great Book...I need to read it again
     
  12. droxford

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    eh.... change my vote from "who cares" to "understand all viewpoints"
     
  13. Ottomaton

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    Ooops. I meant a WWII film from Japanese view.

    As mentioned Tora! Tora! Tora! probably qualifies.
     
  14. Zac D

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    Wait a second. You DON'T like Clint Eastwood's voice? :eek:
     
  15. Saint Louis

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    Pardon me for not being PC. I guess I watched too many John Wayne movies as a child.
     
  16. MR. MEOWGI

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    I think it's great.
     
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    Damn, you just ruined the ending of the movie for me. :eek:
     
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    Really? I thought Jap was like Brit or Yank. That's weird. :confused:
     
  19. Saint Louis

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    Maybe I should be more offended if someone calls me a Kraut?

    Somebody needs to send me a scale on offensive terms. I've been told now that Japs, Orientals and Asians are all offensive.

    What's left? Indigenous people of the islands of Japan? Although to me in historical reference Jap is to the Japanese army as Nazi is to the German army. I wouldn't call today's Japanese citizens Japs anymore then I'd call today's German citizens Nazis. But that is what they were to my elders when they were fighting WWII.
     
  20. Invisible Fan

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    There were Anti-Jap posters during the war while Japanese Americans were being hauled away to internment camps. It went right along with the Yellow Plague paranoia (Kraut-Americans didn't have it that bad compared to Japanese Americans...) Most of the Jap-American citizens had their property unConstitutionally siezed from them and a majority died without any compensation from the government.

    So Japanese Americans might find the term derrogatory while Japanese might not....
     

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