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First trade of the 2006 offseason!

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by DeAleck, Jun 8, 2006.

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  1. DeAleck

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  2. Sean Reynolds

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    Terrible trade by the Jazz, but I'm going to take comfort in seeing Sloan kick Hoffa's ass all over the Delta Center court. :)
     
  3. tigermission1

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    WTH? I thought you couldn't do any trades until after the Finals are over (end of June, I thought) :confused:
     
  4. peterlake144

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    Why is this a terrible trade instead of just a wash? Are you expecting big things from Humphries and Whaley in Toronto?
     
  5. hooroo

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    a very minor salary dump by toronto
     
  6. m_cable

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    After you season ends (i.e. if you're a lottery team, or get eliminated from the playoffs), you can trade anybody as long as they are under contract into the next year. Which is basically anybody that isn't an upcoming free agent or has an option of any kind.
     
  7. jopatmc

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    Toronto is just getting set for the big trade that brings in Magloire.

    Houston: Stro and Rybo to Milwaukee, #8 to Toronto.

    Milwaukee: Magloire to Toronto.

    Toronto: #1 pick to us along with a re-signed Mike James. They then re-sign Eric Williams to a 2-year deal and send him to us for our TE.

    ;)
     
  8. hooroo

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    looking at this again it does make for interesting speculation.

    while humphries and whaley won't challenge for a starter's role they do help complete the raps frontcourt regardless of whether bargnani, thomas, or aldridge are drafted.

    pg: * - a.williams
    sg: mo pete -
    sf: charlie v - graham - e.williams
    pf: 'no.1 pick' - humphries
    c: bosh - whaley

    they need a starting pg and someone to take some minutes off mo pete. graham could be used as trade bait, especially if bargnani or thomas are drafted (as they can cover sf i think).

    if only mj can accept the 4.2 te (would a 25-30mil 5year be doable from that?) and a straight swap of head for graham (filling needs for both teams). the te would be valuable to them next year with so many players coming off their books then.
     
  9. arjun

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    why?? they trade two trash players for some with some potential, i mean he was the 8th pick, there must have been soemthing in him, anyways from the toronto boards on realgm, they said that he was not a good fit in sam's system, and that he can be a productive back up center
     
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    Raphael Arujao?

    the guy was a freakin' lottery pick and now he's chump change

    lol
     
  11. Sean Reynolds

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    It's a terrible trade because I don't want a BYU player playing for my Jazz! :)
     
  12. jopatmc

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    Sloan just can't do without an Ostertag on his roster.
     
  13. ChrisBosh

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    i don't know what Colangelo is gonna do with so many PF's. Not that humphries is gonna save the Raps. The trade is a wash...two players who havn't reached expectations.
     
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    They could plug Morrison, the Euro forward, or Aldridge and that would be a pretty good lineup.
     
  15. SamFisher

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    Aruajo was probably the worst regular player in the NBA this last season.
     
  16. tiger0330

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    You're dreaming, no need to S&T MJ. CD is not signing him for more than the MLE. Pretty creative though.
     
  17. RunninRaven

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    Sounds like a couple GMs were just bored.
     
  18. emjohn

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    Trade 'em.

    Villaneuva and Alvin Williams for Magloirre would work (and give Mil a young, natural PF so they can move Bogut to his natural position at C).

    Colangelo's pressing that they should focus on bringing in non-Americans, since they won't be nearly as adverse to being in Canada. Hence all the heavy speculation that they're taking the Italian kid in the draft (which I don't fully believe - a trade down with Por might net them a more useful Brandon Roy). They still would prefer Bosh at the 4 instead of 5. They're not going to try all that hard to keep Mike James because (like us) they'd rather have a PG that can create for others and run set plays.

    Colangelo knows what he's doing. Don't be surprised to see the Raptors back in the playoffs in two or three years.

    Evan
     
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    Only way this deal could get any sweeter is if you swapped Howard for Swift. #1 pick + Mike James + still having the MLE - Howard/Bowen = me doing backflips and going streaking through the city of Pittsburgh while absolutely nobody understands what i'm doing or what i'm celebrating. :cool:
     
  20. jopatmc

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    That would be a decent trade if Milwaukee went for it. They'd be eating AW's salary of around $7 mill for a couple years, especially since they have 3 point guards that are playing pretty well for them. And they could probably run Villanueva over to the PF position. But the other end of the deal would leave Toronto still short at 2 positions, SF and PG. I would think a better deal would be for Toronto to send us their #1 pick and the promise to work with us on a S&T of Mike James. We in turn send them our #8 and then send Stro, Rybo, and a future pick to Milwaukee. Milwaukee sends Magloire to Toronto. Milwaukee gets a good fit PF next to Bogut along with a future first. We get the #1 pick and a $5.4 TE for moving Stro to Milwaukee. With the promise of the S&T from Toronto, we approach Mike James with a contract starting at $5.4 mill with raises and hopefully re-acquire him with it.

    With this deal, Toronto gets their big center to play with Bosh and Villanueva and they can also go after Marcus Williams at 8 if he falls there, thereby fixing their starting lineup and giving them a solid starting 5 out of basically the #1 pick in a draft when the #1 pick probably doesn't have much more value than the #6 pick.

    We turn our pick and Stro Swift into Mike James and a tremendous amount of leverage to add help to our roster with the MLE, our still 2 remaining TEs, and the #1 pick.

    I think if Toronto likes Magloire and Magloire like Toronto, this is the type of deal that could work. Toronto may be enticed to do a deal like this straight up with Milwaukee for Magloire and one of Milwaukee's point guards not named T.J. Ford but I would think they would prefer Marcus Williams.

    And I suppose there would be a team out there like Atlanta that would entertain a S&T of Al Harrington for Magloire but those deals don't make sense because if Magloire wants Toronto and Toronto wants Magloire, nobody else is going to want to trade for him. Not to mention, the player that is signed and traded has to want to go to the city he is being traded to. Can't see Harrington wanting to go to Milwaukee.


    I'd really like to see if this deal could be done. It would open up so many more avenues for us.
     

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