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Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Jeremy Williams, Sep 12, 2020.

  1. Wulaw Horn

    Wulaw Horn Member

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    I mean, if you are trying to give me an erection that just lasted more than 4 hours tell me Dusty isn't allowed to do the lineup card and we let a computer do it instead and I will be calling my physician.
     
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  2. Stephen66

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    Didn't he JUST THE OTHER DAY blame the pitchers for all the stolen bases "machettito" is giving up? **** him.
     
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  3. The Beard

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    Lol

    Dusty had the best pitching staff ever assembled to finally win one after 29 years trying

    He is awful and anyone who can’t see that simply doesn’t understand baseball
     
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  4. Elienator

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    The 2018 or 2019 teams were probably the best Astros teams ever despite not winning the WS.

    On the pitching side they both had Verlander and Cole both in Cy Young form. 2018 had peak Morton, a still effective Kuechel, a healthy McCullers and McHugh. 2019 had Greinke still in great form and a surprisingly effective Wade Miley to replace McCullers and Morton.

    Both Hinch and Dusty came up short with great teams and won with great teams. The manager matters a lot less than the players and luck when it comes to winning the WS.
     
  5. phasors28

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    Dusty is playing a game of chicken with the lineup
     
  6. Wulaw Horn

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    I don’t care that Altuve bailed him out- Dusty ought to be horsewhipped for letting that ****ing fat tub of goo hit for himself in the 6th. what a disgusting AB and a disgusting decision.
    if I was Brown I’d dfa maldonado tonight.
     
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    Dusty just popped a massive erection
     
  8. Mr.Scarface

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    So the insurance Homer doesn’t matter? LOL. The Closer is who you need to be pissed at.
     
  9. IdStrosfan

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    Pressly was awful, there is no doubt about that.

    He has very good control and 95% of the time, I see him living on the corners and putting the ball right where he wants it.

    Last night, he was wild in the strike zone. Every pitch that got hit had way too much of the plate.

    Pressly is rusty. He simply needs more than 1 inning every 4-5 games to stay sharp.

    1 way or another, he needs to get in to 4 of these next 11 games.
     
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    Kawhi Leonard would be jealous of Dusty's load management schemes...
     
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  11. Stephen66

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    Dusty can no longer manage this team effectively. maybe drinking too much wine too often or something, or just age, but he's not getting away with his BS anymore. This team's not good enough.
     
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    It wasn’t hard to see early on this team was going to be up against it all season long. I don’t call Dusty names and have a constant hate of him (to each their own) but if we lose out on the division by a game or two Dusty has to be pointed at. All of the crazy lineups, different line ups, PH decisions, SITTING Diaz, inexplicable rest days, etc will be the ultimate **** around and find out.
     
  13. Elienator

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    I think this just points out the underlying issues around roster construction and injuries are more important than the manager in terms of the big picture.

    Given the margins are so thin this year, a few games here and there take on added importance. That said, not having a GM in the off-season and roster construction issues are a much larger part of why the margins are so thin.
     
  14. IdStrosfan

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    Of course shooting yourself in the foot and reducing your chance to win before the game even starts, by constantly leaving better players on the bench certainly isn't ideal.

    It's impossible to know if the decisions cost any games, but the math says it is very likely that chance caught up and hit at least once or twice.
     
  15. Elienator

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    I’d agree continuing to play Maldy over Diaz at catcher over the course of the season is worth a few games.

    The other lineup decisions (particularly batting order) probably don’t mean much especially over a 10 game sample size.

    I’d prefer a manager who did a better job of lineup construction and in game decisions, but I don’t get riled up about it. Injuries, roster construction, “luck”, and things a manger does behind the scenes all play a bigger role over the course of a season.
     
  16. Hemingway

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    That one decision to start Maldy at catcher has probably caused the Astros 6 games. He has lost several games with basic catcher defense being abhorant. Add that to the Chas idiocy and even with the injuries we would be shoe-ins for the division. How come he gave up on Myers while being so loyal to Julks. The GM deserves some blame as well for the idiotic Singleton and the other 1b move I can’t remember. I don’t care as much about batting order, but I do think they should have moved and still should move Abreau down in the order and let Diaz play first when Maldi is catching. Brantley has gummed up the works even more. After a hot start, he pretty much has sucked for a while now
     
  17. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    Not playing Chas also cost a couple of games. Not pinch hitting for Maldy probably cost one game. Not batting Abreu lower in the lineup when he was worthless probably cost a game. Trying to squeeze an extra inning out of starters probably cost 1-2 games. Dusty's stupid decisions at least cost 4 games minimum.
     
  18. Elienator

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    You may believe it cost the Astros 6 games, but that is not what the stats say.

    Diaz has been worth 3.3 (BR) or 2.0 (FG) WAR in 99 games . Split the difference and it’s .0268 WAR per game.

    Maldy has been worth -.1 (BR) or -1.2 (FG) WAR in 109 games. Split the difference for -.006 WAR per game.

    Let’s assume Maldy never played and Diaz played every game. Over 162 games that’s only 3.87 difference in WAR. That’s vastly overstating the impact because Diaz did play 99 games already and can’t actually catch every single game. Jose Abreu has also been worth less WAR at 1st base than Maldy. So 2 games is believable, 6 is not.

    Another way to look at it is 10 runs is worth about 1 win. For the difference to be 6 games, that would mean Diaz would have to be responsible for 60 runs all by himself in about 50 games. That would be about 25% of the runs that the Astros scored.

    If you’ve got stats that say differently or think I’m interpreting the stats we have wrong, I’m willing to be convinced.
     
  19. Elienator

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    Peak Barry Bonds and Babe Ruth who put up the best offensive WAR seasons in history were worth about .019 WAR per at a bat.

    1 pinch hitting decision is not worth a game.
     
  20. astrosrule

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    ya playing someone who's basically a pitcher at the plate while being the worst defensive player at his position over a star is truly nuts
     
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