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Feingold's idiotic attempt to get attention

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  1. bigtexxx

    bigtexxx Member

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    I'm sure Kos will eat this up, but really it's nothing more than a silly ploy to rile up the masses and get some attention for the liberals...

    http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/03/12/feingold.censure/index.html

    Feingold to call for rare presidential censure

    Sunday, March 12, 2006; Posted: 8:12 p.m. EST (01:12 GMT)


    Sen. Russ Feingold, D-Wisconsin, says Sunday that President Bush intentionally violated the law.

    WASHINGTON (CNN) -- A top Democratic senator said Sunday he plans to introduce Monday a resolution calling for President Bush to be censured for his domestic wiretapping program.

    Sen. Russ Feingold, a potential presidential candidate, told ABC's "This Week" Sunday that the resolution would not preempt discussions about changing a 1978 law governing a special court set up to approve wiretaps.

    "It's an unusual step," he said. "It's a big step, but what the president did by consciously and intentionally violating the Constitution and laws of this country with this illegal wiretapping has to be answered.

    "There can be debate about whether the law should be changed. There can be debate about how best to fight terrorism. We all believe that there should be wiretapping in appropriate cases -- but the idea that the president can just make up a law, in violation of his oath of office, has to be answered."

    Feingold, a member of the Senate Judiciary and Intelligence committees, said he is doubtful any Republican senators will join him in trying to reprimand the president.

    Only one president, Andrew Jackson, has ever been censured.

    Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, also speaking on ABC, said Feingold "is just wrong."

    "He is flat wrong, he is dead wrong," said the Tennessee Republican -- also a potential presidential candidate in 2008 -- adding that "attacking our commander in chief ... doesn't make sense."

    "We are right now at an unprecedented war where they really want to take us down," he said. "A censure resolution ... is wrong. It sends a signal around the world.

    "The American people are solidly behind this president in conducting the war on terror."

    Sen. John Warner, the chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, noted Feingold's presidential aspirations, and criticized his move as "political grandstanding."

    The Republican from Virginia noted that, since 1978, when the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act was passed restricting covert surveillance, technology has changed dramatically.

    "Presidents must act instantaneously in the security interests of this country," he said.

    Bush authorized the National Security Agency shortly after the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks to eavesdrop on Americans suspected of communicating with al Qaeda members overseas -- without obtaining a warrant from the FISA court.

    The administration has said the program is lawful, and although initially a number of Republicans were critical, most have moved on to "fixing the law," in Feingold's words, to erase any question of its legality.

    On Tuesday, four Senate Republicans proposed a bill to provide what one called "very rigorous oversight" of the program while also giving it the force of law.

    Sens. Mike DeWine of Ohio, Olympia Snowe of Maine, Chuck Hagel of Nebraska and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, all members of the Intelligence Committee, introduced the bill late Tuesday afternoon in an effort to address criticism of the program and reach a compromise.

    Feingold said revising the law isn't enough.

    "What I'm interested in is my colleagues acknowledging that we as a Congress have to stand up to a president who acts as if the Bill of Rights and the Constitution were repealed on September 11," he said. "We didn't enact martial law on September 11. We still have a constitutional form of government, and if the Congress of the United States does not stand up for that authority at this point, it will be an historic failure of our system of government."

    Sen. Carl Levin, the ranking Democrat on the Senate Armed Services Committee, said he believes Bush's program is wrong but said he would rather wait for the investigation by the Intelligence Committee to be completed.

    But Levin, of Michigan, backed Feingold's right to harsh words for Bush.

    "I think criticism of the president is legitimate," he said. "I think we ought to welcome some checks and balances on the president."
     
  2. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Awesome....

    And while you are at it, get rid of that civil rights erosion, called the Patriot act.

    DD
     
  3. Sishir Chang

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    As opposed to the Clinton impeachment?
     
  4. rodrick_98

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    what exactly is to be censured?
     
  5. Sishir Chang

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    Nothing really. A censure resolution is a sense of the Senate that has no legal authority but is an official documentation of Senate disapproval.
     
  6. Deckard

    Deckard Blade Runner
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    The President, for domestic spying on Americans, violating laws passed by Congress. He deliberately ignored the checks and balances inherent, supposedly, in our system of government, as written by the Founding Fathers in our Constitution. It's pretty cut and dried. The Republican Party leadership now wants to change the law, in order to make Bush's illegal activity "legal," after the fact.

    It would be like you assaulting someone, and then getting a law passed outlawing assault, after which you said you hadn't violated the law. Think of it as a lame card trick, where everyone sees how you did it but, as in the case of the GOP leadership, decide to smile and pretend to be amazed.


    Keep D&D Civil.
     
  7. rodrick_98

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    i wasn't asking what he did to be censured, i was asking what it was... Sishir Chang answered
     
  8. Deckard

    Deckard Blade Runner
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    Cool. Your question read to me as if you didn't know the reason behind the motion to censure.



    Keep D&D Civil.
     
  9. jo mama

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    or terri shiavo?
     
  10. wnes

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    I think Deckard answered your question in its original form while Sishir answered the question "what is censure."
     
  11. surrender

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    Excuse me Bill, didn't you vote to impeach Clinton?

    Accountability is for liberals and the French
     
  12. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    Feingold is doing this because they know that they can't impeach Bush. The Democrat's can't really DO anything in government right now, at best they can try to stop the Republican's from doing stuff through filibuster in the Senate.
     
  13. No Worries

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    Bush's idiotic attempt to get attention.

    Bush lies about everything. I don't see why admitting to illegal NSA spying would be any different. Bush did it for a cheap PR stunt. Not very bright, but that is a different story.
     
  14. No Worries

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    They can't censure him either. My guess is that Feingold wanted the NSA illegal spying scandal to eat more news cycles.
     
  15. Rocket River

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    not such thing as bad publicity

    Rocket River
     
  16. ROXRAN

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    Exactly the reason the neo-demos will fail...again!
     
  17. basso

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    Republicans: fighting the war on terror

    Democrats: fighting the war on republicans

    2000, 2002, 2004: republicans 3, democrats 0

    the american people have spoken, and it's clear which war they're committed to fighting.
     
  18. rhadamanthus

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    Enjoy that while you can.
     
  19. bigtexxx

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    This is proving to be more and more correct. What are the liberals DOING? Good grief.
     
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    Yup, the one against homos who want to get married.
     

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