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Feel the Hope: Obama=Nixon

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Nov 1, 2010.

  1. basso

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    a brutal critique, from (classic) liberals, in the WaPo of all places, echoing many of the critiques that those of us on the right have been making since Obama's true nature was first revealed in his "bitter clinger" comment.

    [rquoter]Our divisive president, redux

    By Patrick H. Caddell and Douglas E. Schoen

    President Obama's post-partisan America has disappeared, replaced by the politics of polarization, resentment and division.

    THIS STORY
    Our divisive president, redux

    A choice for Obama: Try leadership

    In a Univision interview on Monday, the president, who campaigned in 2008 by referring not to a "Red America" or a "Blue America" but a United States of America, urged Hispanic listeners to vote in this spirit: "We're gonna punish our enemies and we're gonna reward our friends who stand with us on issues that are important to us."

    Recently, Obama suggested that if Republicans gain control of the House and/or Senate as forecast, he expects not reconciliation and unity but "hand-to-hand combat" on Capitol Hill.

    What a change two years can bring.

    We can think of only one other recent president who would display such indifference to the majesty of his office: Richard Nixon.

    We write in sadness as traditional liberal Democrats who believe in inclusion. Like many Americans, we had hoped that Obama would maintain the spirit in which he campaigned. Instead, since taking office, he has pitted group against group for short-term political gain that is exacerbating the divisions in our country and weakening our national identity.The culture of attack politics and demonization risks compromising our ability to address our most important issues - and the stature of our nation's highest office.

    Indeed, Obama is conducting himself in a way alarmingly reminiscent of Nixon's role in the disastrous 1970 midterm campaign. No president has been so persistently personal in his attacks as Obama throughout the fall. He has regularly attacked his predecessor, the House minority leader and - directly from the stump - candidates running for offices below his own. He has criticized the American people suggesting that they are "reacting just to fear" and faulted his own base for "sitting on their hands complaining."

    Obama is walking a knife's edge. He has said that the 3.5 million "shovel-ready jobs" he had referred to as justification for the passage of the stimulus bill didn't exist - throwing all the Democratic incumbents who had defended the stimulus in their campaigns under the proverbial bus.

    Although he said, as part of his effort to enact health-care reform, that the health-care mandates were not taxes, now his administration acknowledges in court papers that they are, in fact, taxes.

    As Election Day approaches, the president and others in the Democratic leadership have focused on campaign finance by moneyed interests - an ancillary issue serving neither party nor country. They have intensified attacks on business groups such as the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and individual political operatives such as Karl Rove and Ed Gillespie - insisting that organizations are fronting for foreign campaign money and large secret donations and campaign expenditures. Even the New York Times has noted that "a closer examination shows that there is little evidence" that these organizations have engaged in activities that are "improper or even unusual."

    It astounds us to hear such charges from the president given that his presidential campaign in 2008 refused to disclose the names of all of its donors, and in past election cycles many liberal groups, such as the Sierra Club and the Center for American Progress, refused to disclose their contributors.

    To be clear, we favor disclosure of every dollar spent and closing the disclosure loophole that exists as a result of the Citizens United ruling. But it is disingenuous for a president - particularly one whose campaign effectively dynamited the lone beachhead of public financing in American politics - to scream about money pouring in against his political interests.

    We are also disturbed that the office of the president is mounting attacks on private individuals, such as the founders of the group Americans for Prosperity. Having been forged politically during Watergate - one of us was the youngest member of Nixon's enemies list - we are chilled by the prospect of any U.S. president willing to marshal the power of his office against a private citizen.

    The president is the leader of our society. That office is supposed to be a unifying force. When a president opts for polarization, it is not only bad politics, but it also diminishes the prestige of his office and damages our social consensus.

    Moreover, the divisive rhetoric that Obama has pursued can embolden his supporters and critics to take more extreme actions, worsening the spiral.

    Whatever the caliber of Obama's tactics, they might achieve some short-term success. The Republican Party has offered no narrative or broad solution, and it has campaigned exclusively to take advantage of the negative environment. It contributes merely a promise of a more hostile environment after Tuesday.

    With the country beset by economic and other problems, it is incendiary that the president is not offering a higher vision for the nation but has instead chosen a strategy of rank division. This is an attempt to distract from the perceived failures of his administration. On issue after issue this administration has acted in ways that are weakening the office of the president.

    Douglas E. Schoen, a pollster, is the author of "Mad as Hell." Patrick H. Caddell is a political commentator and pollster.[/rquoter]
     
  2. Rocketman95

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    um, have either of these guys been in a coma since january 20, 2009?
     
  3. da Whopper

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    "Dude" - as the Sanity Restorer calls him - does have a thin skin ("they talk about me like a dog...").
     
  4. Ubiquitin

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    Conservatives have been setting the narrative ever since Obama has been elected. They made HCR the bad guy in the cost of health care. They said saving GM was a bad idea. They made TARP into a demon. They turned against Afghanistan as soon as Obama came into office. I could go on for hours.

    The fact is that no matter what Obama or ANY DEMOCRAT does, the Republicans will be against it. It's been apart of their DNA since Newt led the 1994 revolution.
     
  5. da Whopper

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    Uh, what? He eventually agreed to a strategy that most conservatives could support. It was silly that it took him so long, but he did get it right in the end.
     
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    Afghanistan is "War of Obama's Choosing"
     
  7. rocketsjudoka

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    Yes Republicans aren't divisive just Obama.

    [​IMG]

    :rolleyes:
     
  8. DonnyMost

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    The ironic thing about that is that today's Democrats are closer to Reagan policy-wise than Republicans are.
     
  9. da Whopper

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    Steele caught all sorts of hell for that comment and deservedly so.
     
  10. da Whopper

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    Yeah, it's not like Democrats spent 8 years calling Bush a Hitler-like war criminal. Nah, that never happened.
     
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    They can't find a living person to represent Republicans?
     
  12. basso

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    indeed he did; he was pilloried for it on the right.
     
  13. DonnyMost

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    Well, an unelected President who commits war crimes sure is a hell of a lot more Hitler-like than Barack, but hey, judging things in context is for lame-o's, amirite?
     
  14. da Whopper

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    Although I do not like Obama, he has been pretty good at killing terrorists and I'm down with that.
     
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    While there were a few wackos who likened Bush to Hitler, the criticism of Bush was mostly spot on...

    -Gave billions of dollars in tax cuts, mostly to the wealthy
    -Started a war whose justification was flimsy at best
    -Increased the debt more than any other president to that point in our nation's history
    -Allowed US government officials to torture people
    -Oversaw the most devastating economic collapse since the Great Depression

    Those are just the big ticket items without a single Hitler reference in the lot.
     
  16. da Whopper

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    Supreme Court adjudicated your first lie.

    Freeing 50 million people of two of the worst regimes on the planet is not a war crime.
     
  17. pgabriel

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    so republicans openly claim they have no intention of working with obama and obama reiterates that and obama is in the wrong?
     
  18. da Whopper

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    Obama has continued most of Bush's foreign policy.

    Obama's former budget director has called for extending the Bush tax cuts.

    Obama has made Bush's deficits look tiny by comparison.

    I have no problem with making terrorists uncomfortable in order to save lives.
     
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    They are going to dig up Reagan's bones and run him against Obama in 2012? That's awesome. He'd probably still make a better president than anyone else the Republicans have to offer.
     
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