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Fans Prefer to Bash Texans Rather Than Praise Them

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Jeff, Oct 22, 2006.

  1. Jeff

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    For a while now, I've believed that "fans" are more interested in blasting teams when they lose than they are in praising them when they win. Maybe this is due to the people who don't like the team showing up only for losses and those that like the team showing up regardless. I don't know. But, the fact is that negative calls to talk radio, posts on the BBS, etc. are more prevalent than positive posts. Need some anecdotal evidence?

    Just look at the "Official" Texans threads this season.

    Winning Threads:

    Jags - 177 total posts
    Dolphins - 275 total posts

    Losing Threads:

    Cowboys - 568
    Redskins - 446
    Colts - 408
    Eagles - 395

    Note that the number increased one loss to the next while the two winning games have decreased. To me (and I could be wrong), that is indicative of fans who love the team beginning to lose interest because of the losses while haters are growing increasingly more interested in slamming the team.

    The reality is that the team is more popular - at least in terms of discussion - when they suck. When they win, no one seems to care.
     
  2. Major Malcontent

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    Well part of it is during the game posts are less when we are winning..cause people are actually watching the game instead of posting.

    But point taken...we are too negative as a whole.
     
  3. rezdawg

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    Good eye.

    Im just pissed that Reggie Bush had a bye week because I wanted to compare his rushing numbers today to Lundy's. But, I proceeded to check Bush's rushing numbers combined over his last 3 games and realized that Lundy still rushed for about 20 more yards and had 1 more rushing TD...so I smiled and took a nap.
     
  4. Joe Joe

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    I would say a lot of people use this board as a Texans Fan Support group for when they lose. When the Texans win, fans go to celebrate.
     
  5. The Real Shady

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    It's more about venting then anything else. When I get pissed I jump online to talk about it. When the Texans are playing well I just sit back and enjoy.
     
  6. SwoLy-D

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    Eff the pessimist bahstids. I keep stickin' by their side.

    When we lose, the so-called "fans" want to fix EVERYTHING. They have NOTHING to fix when we win. They're happy that way. Eff 'em. :mad:
     
  7. david_rocket

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    Well the only game thread is ok to get high number of posts no matter they lose, was the cowboys game, because had a lot of pregame posts
    The post distribution were this way:

    pregame posts (97) game posts (340) postgame posts (131)

    and was an important game for the fans.
     
  8. ima_drummer2k

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    I think there's more to it than that.

    I think there is a HUGE "we should have drafted Bush/Vince" contingency on this board, and they are so bent on being "right" that they bombard the losing day threads to tell everyone about it, but tend to stay away from the winning day threads because they can't whine and say "I told you so" after a win.

    I also think it has something to do with the Bush trolls (one in particular) who feel the need to post stuff about Bush in every Texan thread, which of course causes about 10 posters to reply to them (him). Multiply that by 5 or 6 Bush posts, and you have a game thread out of control.
     
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  9. Major

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    Or it could be that there's nothing to argue. When the Texans do well, no one (supporters or detractors) are bickering. When the Texans lose, the detractors post, the supporters respond, and it goes back and forth forever and ever.

    It has nothing do with there being more people on one side or the other. It's that there's nothing to disagree on. If everyone were a detractor, there wouldn't be many posts either.
     
  10. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    I don't think people want to bash them, I think it is more about people venting, and then others attacking the vent causing an argument.

    Not much anyone can say after WOOOHOOO !!

    DD
     
  11. ima_drummer2k

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    The 'bashers' could at least give credit where credit is due, like some (including you) have done.
     
  12. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    I am just a realist, if I think they are playing poorly I say it, if I think they are playing well, I give credit there too.

    It is a young team, and new coaching staff, they are still feeling there way....

    I still would have taken VY, BUT.....I like what I see from Carr a LOT....and that is a big turn around from what I thought before this year.

    DD
     
  13. TMac#1

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    I guess a lot of it is because of the draft, but honestly, it is looking more and more like the Texans were actually right. ESPN can hype Bush all they want, but the reality is that Bush has done absolutely nothing so far, outside of a punt return, and Vince is probably gonna turn out great, but the way Carr is playing, we have a potential probowl QB here, and Mario W is really improving every week and you can start to see why he was the #1 pick.

    Its gonna take a while for the fans to come back after a 2-14 season. This team lost a huge part of its fan base after the debacle last yr and then the draft. I also think the success of the Astros the past 2 yrs combined hurt the fan base as well. The beginning of the 04 and 05 Texans seasons came at the same time when the Astros captured this town's interest and heart with two pennant runs, now I think this is a baseball town and the Texans are gonna have to show a lot of improvement to get fans back and for them to start praising them. Today's game was a good start, a game you could really be proud of them for.
     
  14. msn

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    Jeff, I think a large %age of the posts on the high post-count "loss" threads is folks arguing against the bashers. Not that that's any better than negativity (being quite guilty myself), but I think that's a big part of it.
     
  15. ac in austin

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    If you think the negativity is bad here you should check out a Longhorn board. Nothing is good enough over there.
     
  16. Uprising

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    It's cause there are so many people wanting to jump on David Carr and say how much he sucks. Then there are the others who jump in to talk about their man crushes on the other draft picks. And then the ones who just despise the team because it's not named Oilers and they will never be happy with them.

    But yeah....that was all obvious....so this post is pretty pointless.

    Oh well, great win today. :)
     
  17. The Real Shady

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    The problem with Carr is AJ bailed him out on that terrible throw into double coverage. That should have been a pick, but AJ's greatness saved him.

    How long will Carr's lucky streak last? Not very IMO.

    :p
     
  18. JeopardE

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    I think Jeff is absolutely right. For some reason people don't come out to say good things about the Texans when they do something right, but the haters are here in force after every loss. And I don't believe it's just about venting either ... my natural inclination as a fan is to come to the BBS and read/gloat after a win, and in fact the excessive negativity and venom that fills these parts makes me want to stay away at other times. You know it's true when someone starts a "David Carr should be traded" thread after his first bad game of the season despite a string of four straight top-notch performances (and that thread is now whopping 16 pages long already). You know it's true when you can't even state the fact that David is one of the top 5 QBs in the NFL this season without having to defend yourself vigorously even though the facts clearly show it. Posters like jgreen91 are the champions of hatred -- somehow finding a way to bash the team even after a 27-7 blowout win that showed no weaknesses on any side of the ball. Ugh.

    Let me get this straight -- we just defeated our top rival in the NFL. By a 20 point margin. Our defense forced two turnovers (when last did that happen?). Carr threw a hail-mary 35 yard pass to AJ for a touchdown. We actually had a running game, and Wali Lundy nearly broke the 100 yard mark for the game despite not starting. And here's something that hasn't even been mentioned in the game thread: *For the first time in history*, we won back-to-back games at home. And guess what, this place is absolutely lethargic.

    GARM is the exact opposite. Thronged with posters when we're winning, a smattering of clueless haters when we're losing. True fairweather fanship.
     
  19. A-Train

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    Jeff, you do know this is a ROCKETS board, right? This forum just adopts the character of GARM. Hell, isn't it human nature to be more pessimistic and cynical about life?

    NOBODY likes that jerkass at work that is always smiling and happy...
     
  20. emjohn

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    I think this is the majority of it, plus the internet culture of people trying to prove how smart they are by pointing out everything that's wrong. Everyone's a critic on the boards, and as it's already been posted, there's not much to pick apart when Carr throws two TDs/no INTs, Lundy breaks off a respectable chunk on the ground (more than Bush's 30 yds/game!!!), the defense allows only a single score and generates turnovers, etc.

    The most you get are a couple of major TUTA types that grumble about us getting lucky and the Jags not showing up.

    Evan
     

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