1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Families of 11 dead illegals to sue U.S.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Htownhero, May 12, 2002.

  1. Htownhero

    Htownhero Member

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2000
    Messages:
    2,570
    Likes Received:
    32
    Families of 11 dead illegals to sue U.S.
    By Steve Miller
    THE WASHINGTON TIMES


    The families of 11 immigrants who died illegally crossing into Arizona from Mexico have filed a $41 million claim against two federal agencies, saying the government's refusal to put water out in the desert contributed to the migrants' deaths.
    The action filed against the Department of Interior and the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service asks for $3.75 million for each of the deceased, whose bodies were found last year in the Cabeza Prieta National Wildlife Refuge between Tucson and Yuma.
    Attorneys for survivors of the deceased said that U.S. Border Patrol policies had shut down more populous portions of the Arizona border and forced illegal aliens to enter through more remote areas.
    "What these agencies knew — or should have known — is that by doing this, and with a history of deaths in the desert, these people would cross in these dangerous areas," said A. James Clark, one of the two Yuma lawyers filing the claim. "It would have cost the government nothing to put water stations in, as it had done in other locations."
    The claim says the agencies rejected a request made shortly before the deaths by the Tucson humanitarian group Humane Borders to place 60-gallon water stations in the refuge, as it has done in other parts of the desert.
    "The agency was on notice that death or serious injury would likely occur," the claim states. "The denial of the agency was based upon concern over animal habitat, which outweighed human life. This decision ran contrary to the stated mission objective of the agency, which is to protect human life on its property."
    The claim, which must show the existence of injury and ask for damages, is the first step to a lawsuit under federal law. If unanswered within 180 days, the claim can then become a lawsuit.
    A spokesman for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service in Albuquerque, N.M., which oversees the refuge, acknowledged that his agency received the request for water stations last year.
    "But of those places they requested to place water stations, none of them would have helped the poor people who perished there," said spokesman Tom Bauer. "In fact, the closest proposed water area for a water station was 12 miles and two mountain ranges away from where the migrants were found dead."
    He added that the smugglers who were leading illegal immigrants through the more remote areas were "duping" their clients.
    Several unmarked watering holes established by the government, supplied by 10,000-gallon tanks, are placed around the refuge, part of an effort to maintain the Sonoran pronghorn antelope, an endangered species.
    "It is criminal that these smugglers are taking people on to that range," said Mr. Bauer, who added that 30-foot poles have been erected at some of the water holes on the refuge.
    "The water has been out there for several years," Mr. Bauer. "Our idea is to mark where the water holes are as a humane gesture."
    Fourteen persons died in May 2001 when smugglers led the immigrants into an area of the refuge known as the "Devil's Path" near the Mexican border.
    The refuge is an 860,000-acre expanse with the closest major highway — Interstate 8 — 300 miles north of the border. Cabeza Prieta abuts a military range and offers little shade. Signs warn visitors that ground temperatures in summer can exceed 130 degrees.
    In the past three years, the Immigration and Naturalization Service estimates that more than 1,000 migrants have died of various causes trying to cross into the United States.
    One of the smugglers for the deceased named in the claim, Jose Lopez-Ramos, received a 16-year sentence for his role in the deaths earlier this year.
    Lopez-Ramos was one of three guides working for a smuggling ring that led a group of about 30 illegal immigrants from Sonoita, Mexico, into the United States on May 19.
    Each immigrant paid the smugglers $1,400 for the illegal crossing. They were told the trip would take two days and that they would walk at night to avoid detection and the searing desert sun.
    The group got lost and ran out of water during the second day, Lopez-Ramos told authorities. One guide and three immigrants turned back and returned to Mexico.


    How dare we close off part of our border and force them to cross a desert to illegaly enter our country! :rolleyes:
     
  2. mr_oily

    mr_oily Member

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2000
    Messages:
    2,183
    Likes Received:
    1
    REGRESEN A SU PAIS!!!!:mad:
    HIJOS DE LA CHIN....:mad:
     
  3. Timing

    Timing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2000
    Messages:
    5,308
    Likes Received:
    1
    That might be the stupidest lawsuit in the history of the world. Should we just start leaving horses for them at the border so they can just ride on in?
     
  4. Rocket Fan

    Rocket Fan Member

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 1999
    Messages:
    4,791
    Likes Received:
    4
    that is insane!
     
  5. DiSeAsEd MoNkEy

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2001
    Messages:
    1,587
    Likes Received:
    1
  6. MadMax

    MadMax Member

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 1999
    Messages:
    76,683
    Likes Received:
    25,924
    i'm soooo glad no one has come out in support of this lawsuit!! :)

    still waiting on glynch's reply, though! :D

    honestly...this is probably the silliest thing I've ever heard of in the courts.
     
  7. Space Ghost

    Space Ghost Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 1999
    Messages:
    18,195
    Likes Received:
    8,596
    Im all for people making an easy buck! It should be the lawyers that should be shot to death! Or at least make them supply the water.
     
  8. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 1999
    Messages:
    129,236
    Likes Received:
    39,744
    I am tellling you, make whoever loses the lawsuits responsible for court costs, then watch all these frivolous lawsuits dry (ehem) up.

    DaDakota
     

Share This Page